Forster pilots
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Glad to see the eyes are working good.
Pistolero
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Thanks, the recently operated on eye is still not up to par yet, but getting better. Still somewhat
of a snow globe effect. Too much movement stirs up debris left over from the surgery, make it
cloudier.
As to the diameter, they are 0.134". One went about half a thousandth under, should be OK.
Will stamp them and then heat treat them tomorrow. Need to be hard so the setscrew
won't bite into them.
Bill
of a snow globe effect. Too much movement stirs up debris left over from the surgery, make it
cloudier.
As to the diameter, they are 0.134". One went about half a thousandth under, should be OK.
Will stamp them and then heat treat them tomorrow. Need to be hard so the setscrew
won't bite into them.
Bill
Ian
Notorious member
Meh, scratches hold lubricating oil 
Mill a flat on the stem and let the screw bite, that's how Forster does it. Too brittle and they snap. Not much force needed to retain the trim pilots anyway, it's the neck turning pilots that you really have to crank down.
The old snow globe thing is sure weird, been there and had that happen with high anterior cell count, like 6+ on the slit lamp exam. Fortunately those go away eventually, the damned vitreous floaters are Fo'-evaah and a paine royale. Seems like you're buying good time, two things we really need to be in good shape right up to the point the rest of it all quits are mind and vision.
Mill a flat on the stem and let the screw bite, that's how Forster does it. Too brittle and they snap. Not much force needed to retain the trim pilots anyway, it's the neck turning pilots that you really have to crank down.
The old snow globe thing is sure weird, been there and had that happen with high anterior cell count, like 6+ on the slit lamp exam. Fortunately those go away eventually, the damned vitreous floaters are Fo'-evaah and a paine royale. Seems like you're buying good time, two things we really need to be in good shape right up to the point the rest of it all quits are mind and vision.
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Pistolero
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Heat treated 4140 isn't brittle, strong, hard and tough. Makes good punches and
barrel steels, for example. My original Forster pilots are hard as woodpecker lips,
no flat. They can pull out of the cutter if not tight because of the burr raised on the
inside edge of neck.
Trying to keep some useful vision. Long range precision riflery at a high, competitive
level, is pretty much gone, at least with the camo Swiss target. Can still do OK work,
although nothing like a few years ago, on a black bull on buff background target.
Just gotta let go of what is gone and try to keep what you can.
Bill
barrel steels, for example. My original Forster pilots are hard as woodpecker lips,
no flat. They can pull out of the cutter if not tight because of the burr raised on the
inside edge of neck.
Trying to keep some useful vision. Long range precision riflery at a high, competitive
level, is pretty much gone, at least with the camo Swiss target. Can still do OK work,
although nothing like a few years ago, on a black bull on buff background target.
Just gotta let go of what is gone and try to keep what you can.
Bill
Pistolero
Well-Known Member
Got sidetracked helping a friend of my wife look over recently inherited rifles,
shotguns and handguns.
Saw something I had never seen before. A Mauser C96 carbine. Turns out it was
not one of the ultra rare originals, but one from a batch made in China for Navy
Arms from Mauser C96 pistols. Very nicely done. Saw some interesting guns,
picked up a really junker Gehendra, dirty, rusty and rotted wood in the buttstock.
Managed to get the breechblock to move after soaking with ATF/min spirits for
a few hours and persuading with a block of wood and brass hammer. Now it
moves...sort of. Will continue soaking until I can get the screws out. Filthy beyond
belief, and light rust everywhere. "Stored" (dumped?) for a century in piles on the floor
of a partially abandoned palace in Nepal. The price was right.....free.
Still rifling in the barrel, amazingly. We'll see if it has any possibilities of
ever spitting lead again, or just an interesting wall hanger.
Looks like a Martini-Henry, but research shows it is way different inside. Actually
a local Nepalese file and hacksaw copy of a Wesley-Peabody design, with a Henry
patter rifling. One source says it should be a Wesley-Peabody-Henry by Brit naming
conventions. .577-450 caliber.
Bill
shotguns and handguns.
Saw something I had never seen before. A Mauser C96 carbine. Turns out it was
not one of the ultra rare originals, but one from a batch made in China for Navy
Arms from Mauser C96 pistols. Very nicely done. Saw some interesting guns,
picked up a really junker Gehendra, dirty, rusty and rotted wood in the buttstock.
Managed to get the breechblock to move after soaking with ATF/min spirits for
a few hours and persuading with a block of wood and brass hammer. Now it
moves...sort of. Will continue soaking until I can get the screws out. Filthy beyond
belief, and light rust everywhere. "Stored" (dumped?) for a century in piles on the floor
of a partially abandoned palace in Nepal. The price was right.....free.
Still rifling in the barrel, amazingly. We'll see if it has any possibilities of
ever spitting lead again, or just an interesting wall hanger.
Looks like a Martini-Henry, but research shows it is way different inside. Actually
a local Nepalese file and hacksaw copy of a Wesley-Peabody design, with a Henry
patter rifling. One source says it should be a Wesley-Peabody-Henry by Brit naming
conventions. .577-450 caliber.
Bill
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Pistolero
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First I have to get the screws out. That may not even be possible. Soaking on
day two. No budge.
No intent to do that, too may other projects. If I can get it to be a mechanically functional
wall hanger with a cleaned up barrel, I will consider it a minor miracle.
Bill
day two. No budge.
No intent to do that, too may other projects. If I can get it to be a mechanically functional
wall hanger with a cleaned up barrel, I will consider it a minor miracle.
Bill
Pistolero
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No sure, I only have a 7mm neck turning setup, rarely use it. I use the
case trimmer regularly, also have a Lyman. Nice to be able to leave one set
up for .30-06 and one for 7.5 Swiss when I was doing both Vintage Sniper and
Swiss matches.
Here are the new pilots, stamped for size and hardened.
case trimmer regularly, also have a Lyman. Nice to be able to leave one set
up for .30-06 and one for 7.5 Swiss when I was doing both Vintage Sniper and
Swiss matches.
Here are the new pilots, stamped for size and hardened.
