Got me a new one coming!!!

STIHL

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I have been wanting a full wad cutter in 38 for a while, but all of them have been too pricey for my taste. Picked this one up on the old evil bay, didn’t think I did too bad on it for the handle and the mold, needs some love but should clean up good. 73 to the door, seemed fair to me.

Molds are still going for way above market price, it’s unreal. Someone has brand new Lyman, which are all in stock at midway 119 and one of them is 149 plus all the associated fees. Crazy.

photos from the add.
 

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Matt

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You did very well for a mold with handles! There are still deals on molds and other casting/reloading items on E Bay. It’s like any other store, gun show, or web site; you don’t have to buy it. In the last year E bay has been about the only place that has any casting stuff to buy. It’s fun to browse and occasionally rewarding to get a neat mold for a good price. My last find was a vintage 311008 Ideal for $53 to the door. I haven’t paid anywhere near retail for anything. Shipping is generally cheaper than most sellers too. The return policy makes it risk free to buy molds from E-bay.
 

STIHL

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Agreed. I’ve picked up a few here and there over the last year on eBay too. Got some pretty decent deals. This is the 2nd RCBS mold I’ve picked up with handles. Last one was a 45-200 it was 96 too the door shipping ate me up on that one, have to pay attention to the shipping costs. Still, even at 96 that’s half of retail and I’m good with that.

If you have the time to sort through the insane prices and find a reasonable seller you can find some reasonable prices on molds. I watched quite a few go for reasonable prices. I actually missed out on a 4 cavity Ideal 358-495 for 51.00. I bid 50 on it, was kind of let down on that one, it was a really clean mold. Oh well win some lose some.

I also said going for high prices actually meant they are asking insane prices and they are sitting there time after time I get in and look. All the reasonable guys. They sell them.
 
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Bisley

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STIHL,

Could you offer any pointers on how to identify promising molds of FleaBay? I'm serious...

About ten years ago I ordered two molds from FleaBay. Learned my lesson. One was an RCBS with handles for about $80.00. Still have problems with that mold releasing anything. Glad I got the handles, though. The second one was Lyman 429somethingsomethingsomething round nose that was so badly galled at the sprue plate and beat up at the faces I had to throw it away. Came from a storefront shop. Picture and description seemed good. I wasn't aware how I could complain, so I wound up swallowing the fifty bucks.
 

CWLONGSHOT

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You done just fine!!!
50$ for that mold and 20 for handles is pre nonsense prices and very fair.

RCBs makes a good mold. DEWC type 1 are not as common as the Button nose but just as good in a revolver.
CW
 

STIHL

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STIHL,

Could you offer any pointers on how to identify promising molds of FleaBay? I'm serious...

About ten years ago I ordered two molds from FleaBay. Learned my lesson. One was an RCBS with handles for about $80.00. Still have problems with that mold releasing anything. Glad I got the handles, though. The second one was Lyman 429somethingsomethingsomething round nose that was so badly galled at the sprue plate and beat up at the faces I had to throw it away. Came from a storefront shop. Picture and description seemed good. I wasn't aware how I could complain, so I wound up swallowing the fifty bucks.
Well times have come a long way in 10 years, pictures are better! I look for really nice pictures of all sides of the mold, ones with very clear images where you can see the cavities, some sellers know what they are doing, and they know what to show a potential buyer. If it’s one as the above pics I just look at the overall condition and the cavities. Although could have been better, the mold seems to be in good shape and with a little careful cleaning should come back to life. I also look at the handles and see how badly the are abused. Normal dents as dings, a scratch or two ok, beat to hell and handles missing or falling off, It better be dirt cheap or I’ll pass. Price, I make up my mind this is my “to my door price” and I bid that, not a penny more. That’s how I keep from getting caught up in the auction setting.

Also look at the Sellers other items if he has 1 mold and 1000 other junk items likely he has no idea what it is other than bullet mold. If he has molds, gun parts and other loading equipment, it’s likely he has better idea of what he is selling. Good descriptions are a plus too. More detailed a description better off it is. Sometimes you can get lucky in someone’s ignorance, let’s just say it has a number, but no caliber or weight because they didn’t do a 2 min google search that can help if it has good pictures. It will keep some of the peoele who are also to lazy to do a 2 minutes search. The rest of us know what a lot of mold numbers are and what they are. This allows for a better price at times.

As far as being sure there is no guarantees, but I just look real close and take a gamble. So far that gamble has paid off. I have 1 a Lyman 358-429 I think. That needed to be surfaced and needed a new spruce plate, it’s getting one anyway, casts fine, just needed a little work. It’s still in pieces waiting to be put back together, but I cast several hundred with it before I took it down to do a refurb job on it. That’s th worst one I have bought so far.
 

JonB

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I've only had a few RCBS molds, but I can say that each one of them was easy to cast with and made bullets "as advertised".
 

STIHL

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You done just fine!!!
50$ for that mold and 20 for handles is pre nonsense prices and very fair.

RCBs makes a good mold. DEWC type 1 are not as common as the Button nose but just as good in a revolver.
CW
That’s interesting, part of what drew me to it was a full “ Double End” wad cutter. I didn’t know RCBS even made a button style. Either way they will get pushed by 3-4 grains of titegrouop at the steel rack. They should be a fun round and light recoil for practice rounds, and trigger control and that sort of shooting.
 

STIHL

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I've only had a few RCBS molds, but I can say that each one of them was easy to cast with and made bullets "as advertised".

the biggest advantage they have from what I have seen is they hold heat much better than a Lyman due to mass. In the 2 cavity molds anyway.
 

Matt

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Went back to my purchase history for the last 18 months and saw that I’ve purchased 11 molds from EBay and 6 sizing dies. The most I’ve paid for a mold is $86.50 to the door for a new in the box Saeco # 315 .311 tapered truncated cone bullet that I hadn’t been able to find anywhere for several years. The other molds were all less than $60. I did see I paid $45 for a new old stock Lyman .266 L&I sizing die……… blane that one on the pandemic. Still can’t get either 6.5 Creedmoor to shoot cast.
 

STIHL

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Did ya say something about holding heat??

:angry: I’ve been looking for one of those too. Only issue is they all want too much for them when they do pop up. Of course I may be wrong as to what they are actually worth.

I bet that thing does hold some heat, once you get it there.
 

Mowgli Terry

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I have gotten a H&G #50 in a pile of molds I had bought some months back. I became wadcutter king. There were some of the molds that were so obscure some home work necessary

There were enough common relatively new two cavity molds that seven Lyman's were converted for a Master Caster. There was a four cavity 358477 in the mix. Anybody who claims the 358477 is inaccurate has not had my experience.

My favorite on eBay is the backside of the mold is illustrated-no visible number. The title of the ad is "Lyman mold."
 

STIHL

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Well she showed up today and I must say whomever had this mold prior to me was a caster, spruce plate edges were filed and sanded smooth, mold was smoked and lubed with 30W? I cleaned it up, surfaced the sprue and man this thing is jam up. I got a steal of a deal on this mold. Even had a copper washer under the sprue adjuster screw lock. I can’t wait to hear this thing up and make some bullets.
 

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Mowgli Terry

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Well she showed up today and I must say whomever had this mold prior to me was a caster, spruce plate edges were filed and sanded smooth, mold was smoked and lubed with 30W? I cleaned it up, surfaced the sprue and man this thing is jam up. I got a steal of a deal on this mold. Even had a copper washer under the sprue adjuster screw lock. I can’t wait to hear this thing up and make some bullets.
Glad you found a decent example RCBS mold off the web. Do you find the double ended WC's do as well as the button nose down range?. There were several Lyman 35863 molds in the batch I bought some months back. Are all these bullets another example of H&G knockoffs?
 

STIHL

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@Mowgli Terry I have only shot plated DEWC they did well out of my 586 smith. cant speak to the differece the button makes, or who actually designed either one. The mold and handles were in very good condition. At the rate im going it will be spring before I get to test these. I have 10 other projects going.
 

Mowgli Terry

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Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of having my Lyman modified for the Master Caster. Got duplicates. Shoot weekly informal matches with my 586. You can tell on old molds who knew what they were about or not.