holy cow what was that
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smokeywolf
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I've been through 3 quakes that were in the mid 7s and numerous below 7.
Something that's always made me wonder,,, supermarkets always arrange their wine section with the $20+ wines on the top shelf and their $5 to $8 wines on the bottom shelf; insurance payoff?
One of the things I did about a year ago was add earthquake coverage to the policy. You still lose umpteen thousand dollars in a total destruction of the house, but without it, you're talking $200,000 gone. That would make it near impossible for us to move.
Something that's always made me wonder,,, supermarkets always arrange their wine section with the $20+ wines on the top shelf and their $5 to $8 wines on the bottom shelf; insurance payoff?
One of the things I did about a year ago was add earthquake coverage to the policy. You still lose umpteen thousand dollars in a total destruction of the house, but without it, you're talking $200,000 gone. That would make it near impossible for us to move.
fiver
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there ain't nuthin we can do about what nature decides to do.
it's a system if chaos and randomness just like hunting.
your either in the right place at the right time or you ain't, you can narrow the place down some [and even the time now days] but that ain't a guarantee of nuthin.
it's a system if chaos and randomness just like hunting.
your either in the right place at the right time or you ain't, you can narrow the place down some [and even the time now days] but that ain't a guarantee of nuthin.
fiver
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I have a feeling it's just a fault line slipping from the water we got this winter and spring finally working it's way down there and lubing things up.
today is gonna be spent putting some water, food, med kit, and the camping bags together and storing them out in the shed.
I don't think this is over and I am expecting a larger one to hit here pretty soon.
we got a notice from the emergency services last night saying the USGS is predicting one over 7.0 to hit this week, they were pretty close in the time frames for many of the other ones, and I'm taking this one serious.
I don't know if our 120+ year old house would hold up to something that size as close as they are to us.
today is gonna be spent putting some water, food, med kit, and the camping bags together and storing them out in the shed.
I don't think this is over and I am expecting a larger one to hit here pretty soon.
we got a notice from the emergency services last night saying the USGS is predicting one over 7.0 to hit this week, they were pretty close in the time frames for many of the other ones, and I'm taking this one serious.
I don't know if our 120+ year old house would hold up to something that size as close as they are to us.
Sure won't hurt to be ready. 7.0 is getting serious. 2.0 I don't know how you even felt it. Two biggest concerns with a quake is strength and type of initial jolt, up & down or rolling. Second and just as important is the duration of the jolt. One of the things that made the Alaska quake so devastating in the early 60's was that it went on slightly short of forever, it was like a 3 minute quake on top of being so powerful. That's unheard of. 10-15 seconds will seem like an hour, I can't even imagine a 3 minute quake. That old 120 year old may surprise you, lot's of flex in a wood framed building.
fiver
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oh,,, it's got flex, I got 10' high ceilings and it's 2 story's tall.
fortunately the 2x6's and 2x4's are actually 2 and 4 or 6 not 1-1/2x 3-1/2's
we also don't have real silty dirt that acts like liquid when it's shaken, so the quakes roll through like the earth is moving sideways.
the initial jolt is the one I worry about, it could shove the basement over and let the top tip over.
fortunately the 2x6's and 2x4's are actually 2 and 4 or 6 not 1-1/2x 3-1/2's
we also don't have real silty dirt that acts like liquid when it's shaken, so the quakes roll through like the earth is moving sideways.
the initial jolt is the one I worry about, it could shove the basement over and let the top tip over.
My younger bro went to Ca to study the Northridge damage and construction techniques of large structures and roads. The vertical ground movement was the real problem. Building shock supports were designed wrong. The shaking & rolling weakens structures but the bounce really does a lot of damage.
https://www.nap.edu/read/18786/chapter/5#25 interesting read.
https://www.nap.edu/read/18786/chapter/5#25 interesting read.
RBHarter
West Central AR
I've spent my life in earth quake country and the desert .
Not long ago we had a string of quakes that worried me , not because of the strength they were just 4.3-4.6 but they were only a few hundred yards below the house level and centered 4 miles from the front door . Those were the most violent abrupt shakers I've experienced . The foot hills we live on are basically heaved granite slabs and gobs . So the transmission of shock was akin to the kinetic ball swing .
Not long ago we had a string of quakes that worried me , not because of the strength they were just 4.3-4.6 but they were only a few hundred yards below the house level and centered 4 miles from the front door . Those were the most violent abrupt shakers I've experienced . The foot hills we live on are basically heaved granite slabs and gobs . So the transmission of shock was akin to the kinetic ball swing .
fiver
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I got all worked up about it again after a couple more trips westward on the couch this morning while having my soda and watching the news.
so I spent the day moving some stuff out to the back shed. [if it falls down too I can move that wood and get to it]
I figure if I gotta bail there ain't time to be grabbing things on the way out so I stashed enough stuff to get everyone through 4-5 days out there.
food, water, clothes, sleeping bags, shoes, medical kit, radio, battery's, flashlights, a good water proof 12x12 canvas tarp, a 4 and a 2 person tent, soap, towels, and a couple of pistols with ammo.
I already have propane out there, and 2.5 cords of fire-wood 15' away.
I put a bucket of nails in there and got enough particle board to cover up our big window and a couple of other windows if necessary and checked the natural gas shut-off valve to make sure it is free to open and close.
the neighbors just said screw it and are filling a U-Haul.
I guess between the snow this winter, a flooded basement this spring, and now the earth quakes they have had enough. [or maybe it was him getting 86'd from the Bar]
oh well, it was nice seeing them for almost the full year they have lived here.
so I spent the day moving some stuff out to the back shed. [if it falls down too I can move that wood and get to it]
I figure if I gotta bail there ain't time to be grabbing things on the way out so I stashed enough stuff to get everyone through 4-5 days out there.
food, water, clothes, sleeping bags, shoes, medical kit, radio, battery's, flashlights, a good water proof 12x12 canvas tarp, a 4 and a 2 person tent, soap, towels, and a couple of pistols with ammo.
I already have propane out there, and 2.5 cords of fire-wood 15' away.
I put a bucket of nails in there and got enough particle board to cover up our big window and a couple of other windows if necessary and checked the natural gas shut-off valve to make sure it is free to open and close.
the neighbors just said screw it and are filling a U-Haul.
I guess between the snow this winter, a flooded basement this spring, and now the earth quakes they have had enough. [or maybe it was him getting 86'd from the Bar]
oh well, it was nice seeing them for almost the full year they have lived here.
Missionary
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Is there one of those drilling operations going on under that area where they high pressure pump water down old wells to force crude into pumping wells.
Central Oklahoma has hundreds of similar quakes they many think are the results of that high pressure water done about 2 miles. All the quakes are shallow and around that Ricter 3-4.
Central Oklahoma has hundreds of similar quakes they many think are the results of that high pressure water done about 2 miles. All the quakes are shallow and around that Ricter 3-4.
Ian
Notorious member
"couple more trips westward on the couch" took me a minute. That's gotta be weird.
Sounds like Rick has the right idea, maybe go around the house with a screw gun and roll of plumber's tape or old Nylon webbing to keep the upright stuff upright. Got plenty of water stored up? Camping toilet? Are you on city sewer? Water shut-off working too? Spare stash of stuff in the unit with the Mustang? I never thought you'd be running for cover where you are, that really sucks that you might be looking at a bug-out situation.
Sounds like Rick has the right idea, maybe go around the house with a screw gun and roll of plumber's tape or old Nylon webbing to keep the upright stuff upright. Got plenty of water stored up? Camping toilet? Are you on city sewer? Water shut-off working too? Spare stash of stuff in the unit with the Mustang? I never thought you'd be running for cover where you are, that really sucks that you might be looking at a bug-out situation.
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And since the human mind cannot tolerate gaps in knowledge it will fill any such gaps with anything that will fill the spaces and sort of mesh with what is already known. This is why humans get in so much trouble at times. It's probably also responsible for reports of demons, goblins, and other paranormal beings. Since we don't even understand ourselves, and our own behavior we have common sayings like "the devil made me do it", and "I don't know what came over me".
fiver
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I been trying to figure out the water heater, I have cinder block walls in the basement and don't really trust a hilti shell set up in that stuff.
I might have to do some of those pop open type bolts in the wall or build a cage off the floor.
I strapped the furnace down with some set shells in the floor and some pop rivets in the cabinet.
the water shut-off is in the basement so that's a win/lose proposition depending on how things work out.
the fridge is locked down.
the TV is like 5 lbs and 18" off the floor so no worry's there.
all my storage shelves, and gun cabinets are screwed to the wall studs [but the wifes china hutch, also known as her junk collection, ain't for some reason]
Mike.
there ain't no Fracking or disposal going on here.
my last job was running a Frac crew for the past 12 years.
I would know all about it if there were, someone would have called and told/asked me about it.
I doubt I will have to leave and nothing might not even happen, but the USGS put out the possibility of it happening and sent out a warning.
I'm not the fastest thinker in the crowd but I'm pretty good at reading subtle clues.
and if 100 earth quakes in 2-1/2 days isn't a clue I don't know what is.
Ian:
it's an odd feeling.
you feel the couch/chair shift.
you'll hear the ceiling make a slight crack-pop noise somewhere, then things just kind of jiggle for a bit.
if your driving it feels like the truck wants to down and upshift at the same time.
I was outside in a lawn chair and it felt like someone was trying to push me out of it.
I might have to do some of those pop open type bolts in the wall or build a cage off the floor.
I strapped the furnace down with some set shells in the floor and some pop rivets in the cabinet.
the water shut-off is in the basement so that's a win/lose proposition depending on how things work out.
the fridge is locked down.
the TV is like 5 lbs and 18" off the floor so no worry's there.
all my storage shelves, and gun cabinets are screwed to the wall studs [but the wifes china hutch, also known as her junk collection, ain't for some reason]
Mike.
there ain't no Fracking or disposal going on here.
my last job was running a Frac crew for the past 12 years.
I would know all about it if there were, someone would have called and told/asked me about it.
I doubt I will have to leave and nothing might not even happen, but the USGS put out the possibility of it happening and sent out a warning.
I'm not the fastest thinker in the crowd but I'm pretty good at reading subtle clues.
and if 100 earth quakes in 2-1/2 days isn't a clue I don't know what is.
Ian:
it's an odd feeling.
you feel the couch/chair shift.
you'll hear the ceiling make a slight crack-pop noise somewhere, then things just kind of jiggle for a bit.
if your driving it feels like the truck wants to down and upshift at the same time.
I was outside in a lawn chair and it felt like someone was trying to push me out of it.
