I scored a box of moulds .....

RBHarter

West Central AR
RCBS
37-285 FN 2C this one is off to spend some time with Ammohead . I don't really want a .375 anything ....
50-450 FN 1C 50-70 , 500 S&W , both are .512 .....
50-515 FN 1C I guess I need a 50-284 ?
Lee
490 RB 1C
Lyman
358477 1C 150 SWC deep round groove , a real Kieth ?
358432 2C WC I thought I had one already but my book says it's 495 .....
358156 1C 160 SWC double crimp groove , gas check ..... Is this for those infamous 1600 fps 357 mags ? I'd guess it would go 2500 in a 358 Win ?
358430BW 2C who doesn't need another 200gr class 35/38 RN mould ?
40143 2C should work nicely in the 40 the LBT copy did .
452484 1C I needed a 230 to fill the 200-250gr gap in the 45s .
Saeco
#640 @ .409 & 409 gr RNFP why shouldn't I get a 40 cal rile ? Subben big smile ! 400 Whelen !
Handles
3 lg , 1 sm Lyman , 2 RCBS , 1 Saeco .
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
358477 is not a Keith, design but a fine design, one of the very best.
A 1C is just a teaser, though. I have several 4 cavity versions.

I have a 50-70 Rem RB if you want to get rid of the 50-450 RCBS.
 
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Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Yeah, that 358156 will do 2500 out of a 358 or 35Whelen in my case. Getting them to hit the target in something resembling a group gets a little tricky though. They sure will make a gong swing!
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
Yeah, that 358156 will do 2500 out of a 358 or 35Whelen in my case. Getting them to hit the target in something resembling a group gets a little tricky though. They sure will make a gong swing!
I figured that . The one I shoot really likes the 35-250 at 2100 .
Truth told I got away from all of the SWCs in the 38/357 but started looking again after some interesting results with a WC in a 9mm . I shoot 2 that are like flat rate boxes , if it fits the magazine , it ships . I might get one HP'd .
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
the 477 nose is not a keith nose.

but man they will shoot.
there is only like 400 different iterations of the mold though.
I have 2,, [or maybe 3] they don't even resemble each other but they all feed through the stars and the 550's without any changes to either of the machines settings.

I finally got my Taurus PT-92 to shoot using the 477 sized to 358 on top of 2 grs of titegroup.
I'd recommend bulls-eye.
 

358156 hp

At large, whereabouts unknown.
I've also had success loading 358156 in 9mm without a gascheck seated. Without the gascheck the bullet profile is similar to Lyman 356637, and the actual as cast weight is pretty similar when the same alloy is used so I used the same starting load data to see how it worked. I have no shortage of 9mm moulds, so I didn't keep up with the idea.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I figured that . The one I shoot really likes the 35-250 at 2100 .
Truth told I got away from all of the SWCs in the 38/357 but started looking again after some interesting results with a WC in a 9mm . I shoot 2 that are like flat rate boxes , if it fits the magazine , it ships . I might get one HP'd .

What did you go to in the 357 if not SWC?

35-250 at 2100, that will do the job on anything down range!
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
I started off with a 358-158 RNFP Lee and bought several other SWCs and shot a few RN as well . I just never got any of them to shoot as well across the different guns as well as the first Lee did . It has about a .250 flat on it . That one shot well in an M10 Smith 38 4" , Sec6 6" , and an 1894 C Marlin even sharing loads . It would hit an 8' out of the Marlin with the front sight centered and the top rear of the barrel band centered in the bottom of the U out at probably 350-400 yd . Most of the SWCs I shot I was having an on day when I was hitting consistently on a 5 gallon bucket at 75 yd .
I'm a lot smarter .......no , better educated and more patient than 7 years ago . Although that Lee may have made me lazy .
I've been looking for short SWC to run in a couple of 9mm and the 140 may just do that . Kind of like the 424/423 relationship in the 45s . I traded Dad the Marlin for an A5 Magnum , some day Mom will give it and the 3 screw fixed firing pin BH to me so I might ought to work up some 38/357 loads .
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
I missed the 575-500 Minie on that list ....... 20 ga slug maybe ? I don't see me with a 58 cal ML anytime soon . I'll probably re-home that one also .
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I have a Lee 35-180RNFP type of mould, might have been a GB, but I think it was a factory job from years back. Takes a GC too. It simply shoots great in any 35 cal rifle I've tried it in. My Marlin 336SC 35 Rem loves it. So, I know what you mean about that one mould that makes you lazy! Never have tried it in a handgun.
 

mattw

Active Member
I have the 358156 in a single cavity Ideal that is a factory HP. That is my favorite small game bullet in the Marlin 1894 cast with WW. Slow to make, but a very versatile bullet. I do find that it needs some speed to fly straight, but to much and good luck hitting anything.