I Want One of These!!

LongPoint

Member
You fellows already sporting a carbine chambered in 45 auto or 9MM, I would be interested in the velocity difference in the longer barrels and 4-5 inch pistol barrels. I realize there won't be much difference due to the small powder charges commonly used and that big hole in the barrel. I am very interested in a 45 carbine, they are just a little "spendy" at this time. But you never know.

Marvin
 
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Ian

Notorious member
In a 16" barrel, .45 ACP had virtually no gain over a 5" barrel. The point of diminishing returns is somewhere around 9" if I remember correctly (maybe it's 12"), the velocity actually starts to diminish with any barrel longer than that. I'm getting about 940 fps from Federal American Eagle and about 980 fps from my handloads. You also have to consider the massive losses from a gas system or blowback action.

My DI AR is an upper and magazine well adapter made by Macon Armory. The magazines are HK USC, single-stack, and they insert at the same angle as the do in the intended host, angling forward at the bottom. Note the thumb tab in the mag well adapter in the photo, exactly like the USC but not like the AR. Every time I let someone else shoot it they eject the whole adapter via the standard AR mag release and hand it to me with a puzzled look. Other than the RMW Extreme uppers, this is the only production direct-gas impingement .45 ACP I know of, and it is far, far better to shoot than any of the blowbacks. My rifle weighs 5.5 lbs loaded and has quite a bit less recoil and bolt slam than the straight blowback guns. I couldn't warm up to the RMW modified Uzi magazines, so I opted for the (then brand new) Macon system with the USC magazines. Last round hold open was a priority for me, and the USC magazines, together with the Macon adapter, work flawlessly in this regard. These two companies were making this stuff before most of the pistol magazine lowers were available, and utilize standard AR lowers. Macon makes a Glock-lower compatible AR upper, and some others. My hesitation with the Glock magazine lowers is the bolt hold-open. It looks like CMMG has it worked out according to Sooch's video, but the pistol magazine follower is weak and when an AR bolt catch starts to get dirty, things can bind up.
 

Missionary

Well-Known Member
Greetings
About 7 years back bought a Mech-Tech 45 ACP upper. These use the standard 1911 receiver as the firing mechanism. These shoot very good and make a neat companion when carrying a 1911 about the river bottoms. . So far have been hard pressed to come up with a cast load it does not shoot well. Have a Microdot on it. Very fast on target and where the dot lays that spot is caliber 45 holier .
Mike in Peru

Just went to their web sight ! They now have the carbines to accept Glock ,1911's and XD frames. Plus lots of accessories.
Our's is the old style with the steel frame buttstock.
 
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Full.lead.taco

Active Member
It looks like palmetto has just released their 45 ACP ar15s too. Think I'm going to wait a little while and see how they all pan out.
 

Brian Palmer

Active Member
I have a DDLES Glock mag lower. Been sitting on it for several years. It was their first run and the first company to do this. Some day ill build it.