Lee 35-200 in JM 336

Str8shot426

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So I discovered today that "Fran" the meat gun doesn't like to eat this bullet. Or should I say feed? When crimped into the groove, the full diameter section of the bullet fits right up tight to that 90 degree shelf of a throat so common in Marlins. The lee bullet has a short enough nose to just cause a double feed. This prevents the elevator from being raised and jams the action.
I've never had any trouble with the RCBS 35-200, but it has a longer nose. Are lever actions known to be length sensitive on the short end?, or should I be looking at mechanicals?

Here is a RCBS 35-200 (left) next to the LEE 35-200 for comparison.

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Ian

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Sounds like you have "Marlin Jam" going on.

I bought that mould a while back due to Glen Fryxell's high opinion of it in the .35 Remington Marlins, but haven't had a chance to try it out yet. My Marlin is one of the very last ones made with cut rifling, and it has a little bit of a throat if not much. Also, mine will feed the Lee 358-150 RN pistol bullet just fine, and it has to be seated very short due to the abrupt throat and short "fat" nose of the bullet.
 

Str8shot426

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I read up on the "marlin jam".
Exactly it, and has nothing to do with the bullet. Working on the fix. This bullet is very accurate though in my micro groove.
 

Brad

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I let an older Marlin in 35 Remington sit on the rack at Cabelas a few years ago. I still regret not buying that rifle.
 
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freebullet

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Marlin jam......

Band?, a firing line of marlins firing in unison, never had any issues with the w but, I learn something new everyday.

That rcbs nose looks like a winner. The long gentle profile is usually going to work better in a feeder imo. Short & fat is less universal.
 

Str8shot426

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Marlin jam......

Band?, a firing line of marlins firing in unison, never had any issues with the w but, I learn something new everyday.

That rcbs nose looks like a winner. The long gentle profile is usually going to work better in a feeder imo. Short & fat is less universal.
The rcbs is on the way, I may as well buy another one. The lee makes pretty good heavy .38 special.
 

Str8shot426

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I let an older Marlin in 35 Remington sit on the rack at Cabelas a few years ago. I still regret not buying that rifle.
I had buyers remorse after buying this pair off the used rack at the LGS. 30/30 and .35 Rem. Both 70's JM.
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I got over it rather quickly.
 

Brad

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My 30/30 is a 76 model. I got it over a newer one with better wood because I wanted the drill and tap for receiver sight.
 

Ian

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They quit putting receiver sight holes on them? That was a dumb move.
 

Brad

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They sure did. Drives me nuts too. Luckily Williams makes a receiver sight that uses the holes for scope mount.
 

oscarflytyer

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never had buyer's remorse over a Marlin! currently have 336s in 30-30 & 35 Rem. 1895 in 45-70. Glenfield in 30-30 that will eventually become a 38-55 - and probably my go to deer gun with cast bullets! have parted with a 336 30-30 that I rehab'd and trade way up, as well as a 336 35 Rem when I upgraded a tad. I love 'em! And all eat cast. Prefer to hunt with levers in my woods and with cast!
 

Brad

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I have 5 Marlins and a single Winchester lever action. Far prefer the Marlins.
 

Str8shot426

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Very short lived remorse, I also am stuck on them. Jm's only. Currently kicking the tires on a .32 win special.
It's been on the rack a while, not popular with the masses. But the masses we are not.
 

gman

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I was curious about the LEE due to the short throat on my 336. My CVA Scout II had the same problem. I purchased a 35 caliber throat reamer from PT&G. Reamed the CVA and just did my 336. Very little metal removed and the NOE 35-200 now chambers without heavily engraving the bullet. CVA shoots very well now and I'm hoping to test the 336 soon.
 

JSH

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I have six lever guns. Five are Marlins and one Winchester. All the Marlins are of the 30-30 flavor. First one was dads, second was a waffle top with cut rifling,excellent CB shooter. The other three just kind of showed up, I have octagon barrel in the white to build a 38-55, one of them is going to be a 356ww. The other I am sure I will come up with something, 219 zipper has crossed my mind.
The Winchester is a 94 big bore in 375WW, I bought in a moment of weakness. Biggest mistake I ever made was passing on a 99 savage in 375WW with the hang tag on it.
Any of you playing with the 356? I have a 358 barrel we put on a Savage. I put less than 30 rounds through it so far, it is pretty boring at 100.
Jeff
 

Brad

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I saw a Win 94 in 356 Win a few years back. Passed on it as the recoil of the 375 Win is more than I want in a win 94. Now a Marlin in 356 Win would be a different story. Marlins handle recoil far better, at least for me.
 

fiver

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I only have 1 marlin, the 375.
it does seem to handle recoil better than the 375 Win does.
actually it just don't smack you in the face the same way.