Li"l Gun

Rockydoc

Active Member
I bought some Li"l Gun for my 357 Mag Winchester '92 based on load data from several sources which indicated that LG produced the highest velocity and lowest pressure compared to other powders for a given bullet. Yet I read in some posts here that LG can be dangerously quirky. I have practically no experience with it except to note that the extremely fine size of the powder grains gave me difficulties measuring with my Lyman 1200 DPS II digital powder scale. The little grains would get between the shaft of the powder dribbler and the bearings supporting the shaft.

What are the pros and cons of Li'l Gun. What loads have you found that you like it best for?
 

Rick H

Active Member
I use it in my 22 Hornet with 13.0gr. of Lil Gun and 45 gr. jkt. bullets. The advantage is I get 2850 fps instead of 2650 or so with most powders. It is accurate and repeatable with good case life. That is the only application I use that powder for, but it is a dandy. I have not seen a down side for that purpose. Perhaps the fact that it isn't more usable in other cartridges that I load for is a disadvantage.
 

CWLONGSHOT

Well-Known Member
Its a volatile powder. It does NOT like to be compressed a d if ya de expect pressure spikes.

It burns HOT! IMHO it dosent
Belong in a semi auto.

I have used it in my 357 Carbine for a few years cause it breaks 2000 fps.

I do like it in the afore mentioned Hormet load.

As a rule I dont/wont use it.

CW
 

waco

Springfield, Oregon
It works like a champ in my CZ 527 chambered in .221 Fireball with Nosler 40gr BT Bullets.
 

Ian

Notorious member
I tried it in the 300 BLK, no particular issue but there is better stuff.

Realizing that the unique needs of sub-gauge shotgun led to its development may shed some light on why it does what it does. I think it uses the same scorch-burning technology as new Universal and Titegroup.
 

Brad

Administrator
Staff member
I view it as a limited use powder. Where it works it excels, otherwise it has little use.
The Hornet and K Hornet do very well with it.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
When I used it in pistol caliber carbines, the muzzle pressure was so high it was painful to the ears without muffs. So it never got much use as a walking varmint gun powder. But great in the 22 Hornet.
 

Tomme boy

Active Member
It goes from a safe looking load to popping primers in a 350 Legend load in about a 0.50gr increase. H110 on steroids.
 

Brad

Administrator
Staff member
When I used it in pistol caliber carbines, the muzzle pressure was so high it was painful to the ears without muffs. So it never got much use as a walking varmint gun powder. But great in the 22 Hornet.
My 10”’Tender in K Hornet gives some impressive fireballs with a full case of WC 680 and a 35 or 40 gr V max bullet.
I need to shoot that towards dusk and get some video bet it would light up the sky.
 

DHD

Member
This may or may not add anything to the discussion, but Freedom Arms does suggest to not use it in their revolvers. I've seen threads in the past where it blasts the forcing cone area on revolvers too. I used it initially in a 45 Colt Vaquero (the big one) and it got hot as Hades quick. I see where the question pertains more to rifles than revolvers though.
 

358156 hp

Well-Known Member
I used it with 325 gr cast bullets in a 45 Colt Redhawk years ago. I didn't have any issues with throat erosion.

Damn, those were the fun days.
 

CWLONGSHOT

Well-Known Member
For me the bottom Line is there is more to a good load then top velocities. When I saw pressure spikes I was done. I still have some in the first pound I bought over a decade ago.

CW
 

BliksemE300

New Member
I recently tried it in a 450 Bushmaster bolt gun under some 300gn cast, it worked OK but it belched flame out of the barrel. Other powders are a better match in this instance.