Love/hate glocks

Tom

Well-Known Member
I've always been more comfortable with a 1911. The triggers are great and nothing says "Hello old friend " like a 1911 in my hand. Glocks feel like I'm holding a 2x4 in my hand. I absolutely hate the way they feel.
A few years ago, I bought a g17c because of some articles and a couple of friends urging me to try a glock.
I still dislike the feel of it, but dang, it shoots well! I've never been a bangity bangity as fast as I can pull the trigger shooter, but this silly thing does quite well in that role for me.
A couple or three shots per second at 20 feet and they all stay on a sheet of paper.
 

CWLONGSHOT

Well-Known Member
Im not what many call a fan boy. But I trust Glocks and enjoy them.
I also enjoy many others brands and styles.

Never understood ANY hate if an inanimate object.

Its a tool, better functioning and cheaper then many. Thats a good combo ot overlook some of its other short comings. Like looks and feel. After all bottom Line is how it works for you.

CW
 

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
There are few topics that will bring out strong opinions more than the words/numbers in a thread title that contain “Glock” or “1911

It took me quite some time to warm up to Glocks. I never hated them, but they were different enough that there was some resistance on my part. If you can keep an open mind – there’s a lot to be learned.

Glocks are tools. Yeah, I know, all guns are tools, but Glocks are really tools. Their true strength is their reliability and durability. They’re not pretty but they work, and they work with amazing consistency.

Any student of history will tell you that every now and then, a game changer appears. Sometimes that game changer is an event like the 1906 San Francisco earthquake or the great Chicago Fire. Sometimes the game changer is a person like Dr. Jonas Salk or Johannes Gutenberg. Gaston Glock was one of those game changers.

Glock didn’t invent the polymer framed pistol (H&K had previously used polymer in the VP70). Glock didn’t invent a striker firing lock work (that was extremely common). Glock didn’t invent the short recoil / tilting barrel locking system (that was John Browning). Glock didn’t come up with high-capacity magazines, passive firing pin safeties or barrel to slide locking via the squared ejection port – those ideas were not new. What Glock did was to put a lot of existing ideas together and he broke a lot of conventional thinking in the process. Gaston Glock was not a gun designer and it showed. But he was a fearless innovator and the world of firearms changed as a result. The same way the world changed with the influence of John Browning, Samuel Colt and William Ruger.

I respect Glocks for what they are – very reliable and durable pistols.

There is a book titled, “Glock, The Rise of America’s Gun” by Paul M. Barrett. It provides some excellent history and insight into the development of the Glock pistols and the marketing that followed. It’s worth the time to read it.
 

Glaciers

Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
Well while I like the idea of 1911’s I can’t shoot them worth beans, and that’s not for lack of trying.

Never owned a Glock, probably never will. I do have a 92FS, a P85 Ruger and a XD 45, but that’s about it.

I’m a revolver guy and built to stay that way.
 

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
I too am a revolver guy, although mostly a DA revolver guy and not a SA revolver guy. But I enjoy shooting pistols as well.

I LOVE mechanical things: Guns, Watches, Engines, Tools, etc. So, I can derive enjoyment from a variety of platforms.
 

Glaciers

Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
Yeah DA action guy as well. Only own one SA which I plan on fixing that problem in the future.

I do really like the Berreta, but I need to spend more time with it and the Ruger, the Springfield is I believe Glock like in someways, but it’s sits in a bag with a bunch of loaded mags, and just sits. Need to try to warm up to the bottom feeders. Like I said like the Berreta. To many firearms that need attention for this old dog to expand the horizons into Glocks. I feel the same way about 7mm cartridges, won’t go there, no need, well except maybe for a 7x57 Featherweight
 

Rex

Active Member
Son-in-law carries a Glock 30 on his belt. He is 6'6" with huge hands, I have no idea how he shoots it. He also carries a S&W 638 in his pocket and I don't know how he hangs onto it either but he banks his life on them everyday.
 

bruce381

Active Member
I have said before and is true I bought a Glock just so I have cred when I say they suck.
They work but have no SOUL all plastic made on robot machines, Me I want machined steel like a good old S+W, Ruger etc.
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
If I was going to carry on a regular basis I would probably get a Glock. I have enough nice 1911s and revos to carry but I wouldn't want any of them sitting in an evidence locker after some type of incident.
 

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
As I pointed out in post #3, " There are few topics that will bring out strong opinions more than the words/numbers in a thread title that contain “Glock” or “1911”. :)
 

Rick H

Well-Known Member
I carried 4 different duty handguns during my career of some 31 years. A S&W Model 66, a Colt series 70 1911 (with ambi-safety, Novak high profile fixed sights), a Sig Sauer P220, and lastly a Glock Model 23 for 8 years after my department drank the Kool-aid. The only one that was ever used on a human adversary was the revolver. If I had my druthers the 1911 would have rode with me every damned day
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Glock reliability is way overrated. Markedly worse than the S&W Model 39's that our plainclothes guys carried for years. When we adopted Glocks in 40 S&W the factory was back no less then 3 times in two years trying to solve chronic fail to feed/fail to eject malfunctions and never did get it right. Two different redesigns of magazines, and a new recoil spring assembly helped, but didn't cure the problem. They did not and cannot pass US military reliability standards to this day. 1911's did, Beretta's did, Sig Sauers did......rather than fix the damn things Glock sued saying the tests were not fair. (they lost the appeal). Somehow this doesn't surprise me. Read the history of Glock acceptance in US law enforcement agencies and you will see a string of bribes, blackmail and shady back room dealings in their quest to conquer that market.

Glocks are okay, today, but what Glock does better than anyone else is marketing, legal, shady, or blatantly illegal they know how to market their products.
 

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
If I was going to carry on a regular basis I would probably get a Glock. I have enough nice 1911s and revos to carry but I wouldn't want any of them sitting in an evidence locker after some type of incident.
If you ever use a firearm in a deadly force encounter - The LEAST of your worries will be some inanimate, tangible object temporarily held pending the outcome of an investigation, potential criminal case and near certain civil case.
 

Rick H

Well-Known Member
If I was going to carry on a regular basis I would probably get a Glock. I have enough nice 1911s and revos to carry but I wouldn't want any of them sitting in an evidence locker after some type of incident.
Funny you mention that. When I was carrying my Sig Sauer P220 (my personal gun and not departmental issue) I purchased a second one, broke it in and had it ready to go in case of such an eventuality.
 

Ian

Notorious member
If you ever use a firearm in a deadly force encounter - The LEAST of your worries will be some inanimate, tangible object temporarily held pending the outcome of an investigation, potential criminal case and near certain civil case.

Can attest. Never did get my Kimber Pro-carry back due to crookedness and general bumblefluckery, but I'm still here and when the dust settled I simply went down to the local gun shop and treated myself to a nice replacement which came with a FACTORY ambidextrous safety.