Lyman 311008

Ben

Ben

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I foolishly sold my 2 cav. 311008 about 1 yr. ago.
Finally found a nice replacement and grabbed it , the mould arrived about 1 week ago.
Today was my 1st good opportunity to cast with the mould.
Drops some very nice bullets. No sticking, nice and round at .3132"
They average 117.2 grs. with old clip on WW's.
My Ruger # 1, stainless steel 30-30 really likes this bullet.
BTW, my grandson loves to shoot these also !

Ben

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Trevor pulled one a little on this group :

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This group below was 30-30 Win, 3.8 grs. of Titegroup and the 311008 sized .310" with Wolf Large Pistol Primers.

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Spindrift

Spindrift

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Great shooting, Trevor!

It certainly is satisfying, when you find a load that shoots well- with a minimum of component consumption.

3,8grs of powder.... That'll give you almost 2000 rounds from a pound of powder :)
 
Ben

Ben

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Yes, and a 117 gr. cast bullet instead of my usual 200 + also makes a big difference in cost. And we may as well mention, no gas checks, no powder coating, etc.

Just a real simple , very forgiving load.
When I'm finished shooting, I push a clean white cotton patch through the bore and put the rifle back into the gun safe. The bore looks like a mirror.
 
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Rick

Rick

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I have that mold in an NOE 5 cavity aluminum. One of those I haven't yet gotten around to doing much with.
 
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glassparman

glassparman

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Good on Trevor! Keep them kids shooting as it's better than his face stuffed in a phone!
 
462

462

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As always, excellent shooting, Trevor. Think it's the first time I've seen you pull one. No worry, though, as we're all human and weird stuff happens to keep us humble.
 
CZ93X62

CZ93X62

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Ben and Trevor have opened up the use of a very old Lyman bullet design intended for the black-powder 32/20 WCF into low-node 30/31 caliber rifle usage with wonderful effect. That is some hella-great shooting, Trevor!

The plain facts of the matter are that I have not been in a physical condition do to any shooting or casting for close to a year. Ben sent me a Lyman #311008 a while back that I need to warm up and cast with for my 32/20 arms--4 of them. I have 4 other moulds that have remained unwarmed for this same reason. THIS SUCKS! I am making haste slowly--getting the shop back into workable form and arranged in an organized fashion. I spend about 20-30 minutes each day that I'm not being dialyzed at this restoration task. I have been able to spend 5-15 minutes on small projects at the bench for the past year, but a year of that has left things in a disordered state. I finish the object of the work, but have lacked the energy to put tools away. A year's-worth of that equates to 'The Wreck Of The Hesperis', I can assure you.

The arrival of the Colt Python re-focused me on my need to get my hobby house in order. Progress is at glacial speed, but it is happening. I sold my boat about a month ago--that was hard, but reality must be accepted--that isn't a thing I can do alone any more.

Thank you for understanding.
 
Bret4207

Bret4207

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CZ93X62 said:
Ben and Trevor have opened up the use of a very old Lyman bullet design intended for the black-powder 32/20 WCF into low-node 30/31 caliber rifle usage with wonderful effect. That is some hella-great shooting, Trevor!

The plain facts of the matter are that I have not been in a physical condition do to any shooting or casting for close to a year. Ben sent me a Lyman #311008 a while back that I need to warm up and cast with for my 32/20 arms--4 of them. I have 4 other moulds that have remained unwarmed for this same reason. THIS SUCKS! I am making haste slowly--getting the shop back into workable form and arranged in an organized fashion. I spend about 20-30 minutes each day that I'm not being dialyzed at this restoration task. I have been able to spend 5-15 minutes on small projects at the bench for the past year, but a year of that has left things in a disordered state. I finish the object of the work, but have lacked the energy to put tools away. A year's-worth of that equates to 'The Wreck Of The Hesperis', I can assure you.

The arrival of the Colt Python re-focused me on my need to get my hobby house in order. Progress is at glacial speed, but it is happening. I sold my boat about a month ago--that was hard, but reality must be accepted--that isn't a thing I can do alone any more.

Thank you for understanding.
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Keep the faith buddy. I'm about in the same boat with this cancer crap. Can't seem to DO anything!!!
 
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david s

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Your setup is a great tool for learning rifle shooting. A neat rifle that requires attention when loading, minimum recoil and accurate so it encourages concentration when pulling the trigger. In my 32 calibers I use and like the 98 grain RCBS bullet a lot but the Lyman 311008 or now NOE clone is my most used bullet. Its use from in the various 31 caliber pistol rounds from 32 S&W thru the 327 Federal. I generally just crimp into the top lube groove. A little more weight with a good flat point is something I like in the 32's.
 
Ben

Ben

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I also have this NOE 5 cavity group buy.
I requested a .311 cast bullet with ACWW's.
That is what I got.
Super accurate out of my Ruger # 1 30-30 also.
I size to .310" dia. for this particular rifle.

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300BLK

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NOE's 311008 has noticeably more meplat vs Lyman's from the past 30 years, and weighs closer to 125gr.
 
CZ93X62

CZ93X62

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300BLK said:
NOE's 311008 has noticeably more meplat vs Lyman's from the past 30 years, and weighs closer to 125gr.
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Agreed. We are all familiar with the Lyman moulds' design poetry as years have progressed. NOE's version as per Ben's mould cavities is something of an upgrade, that wider meplat is a good thing.

The 32/20 WCF can be a problematic caliber to load for. I like using Lyman #311316 for 1892-level loadings of 1800 FPS or so. The front drive band invariably runs into the short and abrupt leade in most 32/20 levergun throats. The late NV Curmudgeon had this same issue with his late-series Marlin 1894 Classic. Our solution was to trim cases from 1.302" length to 1,275" length. As such the loaded round gave a slight 'kiss' to the leade and extracted loaded rounds easily.

Lyman's #311008 avoids that issue via its ogive form. The #311008 is meant to sit on a 100%-density/compressed column of black powder and have a roll crimp wrapped around its vestigial 'front band' and/or ogive endpoint. 12.5 grains of RL-7 duplicates black powder ballistics, I derived this load from the late John Kort's work with the 44/40 WCF and RL-7 as a BP substitute. CAUTION--I have only tested this theory in modern 32/20 and 44/40 firearms. So far, so good. Alliant lists 25.0 x RL-7 for 200 grain Cowboy loads in 44/40 in a powder flyer from about 15 years ago. FWIW.
 
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