Marlin cowboy 45 colt 1997 vintage model ?

[harrympope]

It's actually a 1997 model my title had the incorrect information. I'm wondering if anybody knows the bore and twist rate typically in these. I don't have the gun in my hand yet but the information is all over the place in these. I was going to cast bullets in advance of getting the rifle if anybody had the information.

EDIT: Title edited

 

[Ian]

You'll probably have to rebarrel it anyway to get a decent bore and chamber so don't worry about it yet.

EDITED: NEVER MIND. I don't have any direct experience with the mentioned rifles from the period 10 years prior to the ORIGINAL date of question. Good luck with your purchase.

 

[harrympope]

You'll probably have to rebarrel it anyway to get a decent bore and chamber so don't worry about it yet.

And posts like yours are why I stay away from forums

See you guys later.

 

[JonB]

So, Remington bought Marlin in late 06 or 07 ??? can't recall exactly.
When the Remington made Marlins came out of the gate, there was a lot of reported QC issues.
Some years later, they improved that reputation.
I would not buy that 2007 Remlin, but if my dates are off? and this gun has the JM mark, I'd probably consider it.
Maybe you already know this?

 

[Rick]

And posts like yours are why I stay away from forums

See you guys later.

Interesting. One reply post in the middle of the night that you didn't like the reply and you delete the post. If you hadn't been in such a hurry to delete your original post I might have been helpful, I have such a rifle. But now I don't even know what the question was. Oh well so be it.

 

[harrympope]

So, Remington bought Marlin in late 06 or 07 ??? can't recall exactly.
When the Remington made Marlins came out of the gate, there was a lot of reported QC issues.
Some years later, they improved that reputation.
I would not buy that 2007 Remlin, but if my dates are off? and this gun has the JM mark, I'd probably consider it.
Maybe

Interesting. One reply post in the middle of the night that you didn't like the reply and you delete the post. If you hadn't been in such a hurry to delete your original post I might have been helpful, I have such a rifle. But now I don't even know what the question was. Oh well so be it.

Interesting. One reply post in the middle of the night that you didn't like the reply and you delete the post. If you hadn't been in such a hurry to delete your original post I might have been helpful, I have such a rifle. But now I don't even know what the question was. Oh well so be it.

 

[Rick]

This is my 45 Colt Cowboy model. The bore slug measurement is iffy because of such a horrid bore, the Marlin re-barrel was even worse.

Marlin 1894 45 Colt Cowboy
20” Octagon Barrel – 1 in 16 inch right hand twist - Ballard rifling (6 Grooves)
Marbles Rear Peep Sight/Factory Buckhorn Sights
Bore Slug: .45075”
Overall Length: 37.5” – Weight: 6.5 Pounds

<Re-barreled by Marlin March 2009>

 

[harrympope]

This is my 45 Colt Cowboy model. The bore slug measurement is iffy because of such a horrid bore, the Marlin re-barrel was even worse.

Marlin 1894 45 Colt Cowboy
20” Octagon Barrel – 1 in 16 inch right hand twist - Ballard rifling (6 Grooves)
Marbles Rear Peep Sight/Factory Buckhorn Sights
Bore Slug: .45075”
Overall Length: 37.5” – Weight: 6.5 Pounds

<Re-barreled by Marlin March 2009>

Thanks for the info

 

[Brad]

My 45 Colt 24” barrel Cowboy is an awesome gun. The chamber is huge but I can get 8-10 loads on a case so I don’t sweat it. Mine has enough rounds thru it to have a really slick, smooth action.

I haven’t shot for groups at 100, I don’t plan to either. It has taken a couple pigs and a couple deer. It is easy to load for and with .452 bullets it has never leaded.

It is one of my never sell guns.

 

[harrympope]

My 45 Colt 24” barrel Cowboy is an awesome gun. The chamber is huge but I can get 8-10 loads on a case so I don’t sweat it. Mine has enough rounds thru it to have a really slick, smooth action.

I haven’t shot for groups at 100, I don’t plan to either. It has taken a couple pigs and a couple deer. It is easy to load for and with .452 bullets it has never leaded.

It is one of my never sell guns.

I'll have to see where my chamber dimensions end up. I got the gun and it's 1-38 and slugged a bit over. 451.

My 2002 24" .357 cowboy has a great chamber bore and throat.it shoots a rare 200g H&G SWC seated over the front band very well with medium loads of 4227.

 

[Brad]

Wish my 357 Marlin was like that. Mine has a wonky throat and bad bore, won’t shoot an swc for crap. The Mp 359640 shoots well but nothing to write home about. I shoulda bought a 24“ CB in 357 too,I dislike the 19.5” barrel on mine.

 

[harrympope]

Wish my 357 Marlin was like that. Mine has a wonky throat and bad bore, won’t shoot an swc for crap. The Mp 359640 shoots well but nothing to write home about. I shoulda bought a 24“ CB in 357 too,I dislike the 19.5” barrel on mine.

My old model 94 24" Winchester legacy 357 would cycle the 200g rcbs .35(seated to the crimp groove) and had a rifle like throat.it shot amazing and like a dummy I got bored and sold it.

 

[fiver]

the 94's have all sorts of feeding room, but lever back and forth like they are gonna drop all of their parts out the bottom any time now, and have grooves so shallow and narrow it looks more like they just twisted the barrel then smoothed off the outside rather than actually cut rifling.

even so I wish I'd kept the 45 colt I had now that I have an extra swage die I could polish out to 453 or 454.

 

[waco]

My Marlin 1894 Cowboy in .38/.357 shoots best with a fat .361” bullet. Never would have known without trying.

 

[harrympope]

the 94's have all sorts of feeding room, but lever back and forth like they are gonna drop all of their parts out the bottom any time now, and have grooves so shallow and narrow it looks more like they just twisted the barrel then smoothed off the outside rather than actually cut rifling.

even so I wish I'd kept the 45 colt I had now that I have an extra swage die I could polish out to 453 or 454.

My 357 would shoot 1.5" scoped at a 100 yd with the 200 RCBS only going 950 fps.

 

[harrympope]

The two cowboys.the 357 is non Checkered and has nicer wood.the 45 colt is unfired(after 6 am tomarrow it will no longer be though)

 

[CZ93X62]

Love the 45 Colt cartridge. I have yet to own a rifle in that caliber, but have owned a number of revolvers so chambered. My biggest issue with the caliber has always been brass life, directly caused by RCBS T/C size dies that reduced diameter too d--n much. Since going to steel RCBS sizers in both 44 Mag and 45 Colt, my case life issues have disappeared and accuracy improved significantly.

 

[harrympope]

Love the 45 Colt cartridge. I have yet to own a rifle in that caliber, but have owned a number of revolvers so chambered. My biggest issue with the caliber has always been brass life, directly caused by RCBS T/C size dies that reduced diameter too d--n much. Since going to steel RCBS sizers in both 44 Mag and 45 Colt, my case life issues have disappeared and accuracy improved significantl

Love the 45 Colt cartridge. I have yet to own a rifle in that caliber, but have owned a number of revolvers so chambered. My biggest issue with the caliber has always been brass life, directly caused by RCBS T/C size dies that reduced diameter too d--n much. Since going to steel RCBS sizers in both 44 Mag and 45 Colt, my case life issues have disappeared and accuracy improved significantly.

I've had a couple different rifles in 45 colt over the years. They have shot well for me. I don't use carbide dies fir rimmed pistol cases as well for the reasons you mentioned.

 

[Brad]

I use carbide dies and just deal with the case loss. Maybe I could switch to steel dies and lube cases but I don’t know if I really need to change things now.

I do have a steel die I made that barely sizes cases but ever few loads the cases need a trip thru the carbide die to easily fit the chambers on my Mod 25.

I could never size a case and they would feed fine in my Marlin and Ruger,they eat anything!

 

[Ian]

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