NOE 30 cal Molds?

KHornet

KHornet

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Is it just me, or is there a shortage in production of 30 cal NOE molds at the present time.? Hope nothing has held up Swede in maintaining the business?
 
quicksylver

quicksylver

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I have always been perplexed about AL's inventory pratices...Ben has spoken to him about it..his reply was that group buys really bring in the money...

Too bad because so many people after seeing some of the posts have wanted to buy the molds,but they have not been avaible...

He does list the specs...so I guess Tom ..for the same money ..could cut one sooner ..I think Josh is also going to get into it too....
 
Ian

Ian

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Group buys maximize the time investment in tooling set-up. Same as ammo companies, it doesn't make sense to stop the 24/7 line of 9mm that's flying off the shelves to spend a few weeks re-tooling for .380, even if .380 ammo would also fly off the shelves for a while.
 
KHornet

KHornet

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So be it! Guess I will have to wait for my 30 Hunter for awhile. Maybe there are 4-5, more who would really like to get there hands on a Hunter mold????????
 
Ian

Ian

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I can send a few of these if you'd like to try them.

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quicksylver

quicksylver

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Ian said:
Group buys maximize the time investment in tooling set-up. Same as ammo companies, it doesn't make sense to stop the 24/7 line of 9mm that's flying off the shelves to spend a few weeks re-tooling for .380, even if .380 ammo would also fly off the shelves for a while.
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Ian...I really have a hard time understanding your statement...I don't do that type of work ..but in my mind ( what there is of it),,it seems that let's say 2 cavity blocks blanks are all the same..ditto fot the sprue plates..ditto for block set up on the cutting table..alignment pins etc...so the only thing different in the process is the cad design being thrown into the controller and perhaps the cutters....seems to me it would be just as easy (if not easier ) to run an existing design as it would be a new one...

THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS IN IVENTORY AND CASH FLOW...the groups buys are pre-sold items and more or less instant cash as where the old styles one would have to be held in inventory and wait for sales...so as long as you can keep the group buys coming, you are more or less guaranteed that receipts from sales would be arriving as soon as production is completed.... not a bad way to run a business...

It also allows Al to have more bullet designs than about any other manufacturer out there...down side is there are too many to inventory....
and block type offerings OMG ...AL, brass...2c...4c.. mixed...etc
I would however like to see some of the more popular ones constantly stocked.....

I say this with a smile on my face 'cause I don't have a solution for the situation..but remember when Mac Donalds only sold hamburgers and coke...you could whip in and whip out .....now they offer so much it can take a whole half hour lunch time to get what you want....Ditto for DD......
 
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35 shooter

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I've got a inv. buy on .35 cal. going on there now and we've had more than enough sign ups for it to go active for weeks now. There is no action on it yet, or even acknowledgement of it.

I think AL is swamped with orders right now. I hope he works through them all soon.
 
Ian

Ian

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quicksylver said:
so the only thing different in the process is the cad design being thrown into the controller and perhaps the cutters....seems to me it would be just as easy (if not easier ) to run an existing design as it would be a new one...
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IF that were all there was to it. I don't know how Al does things, but all production shops have one thing in common: Re-tooling and set-up isn't quite as simple as we think it would be, even with automated CNC guiding the actual production operations. How Al can offer so many block and cavity options within a group buy and still be time-efficient baffles me. Recently we had some parts made for a custom job, straight dimensional CNC lathe work, and I chatted with the machinist a bit. He said he gets paid for setup and runs the machine for free. About 3.5 hours in programming, jig, tool change, and set-up time was involved, of which about two minutes was actual machining time.

Another challenge is knowing just exactly what to dedicate to inventory runs. A lot of that influence I'm sure comes from "re-run" requests on forums and individuals spearheading small group buy requests and gathering buyers.

As for the 188G bullet, I've wondered that myself. I really wanted it to come in lighter than that for my 11-twist M1A, but to get all the features I wanted for the rifles I wanted to shoot it through it basically has to be what it is. If anything is trimmed, it should be the end of the nose and it should be made with a more "pointy" ogive. No angles should be changed to save weight.
 
quicksylver

quicksylver

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Ian..we are on the same page with the bullet..I guess just shortening the length of the nose to obtain the desired weight would be the way to go...or loose the bottom band.
 
KHornet

KHornet

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Ian, Thanks for the offer, but will hold and wait. I have patients at this stage in my life, that I did not have at a younger age.
Paul
 
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