JonB
Halcyon member
Late last night, I pulled the trigger on a 2 cav NOE 460-393 RN mold.
I've been himmin and hawwin over a 45-70 mold, since I sold a NOE 405gr FN mold, that I wasn't happy with. I'm thinking I really like the Lyman 457483. I've researched and read about experiences, and though most seem many drop a skinny bullet, I am still liking that basic design.
I passed on a nice Lyman sgl cav. w/handles for a reasonable price on fleabay, cuz I couldn't get a decent answer to what size bullets dropped from the seller's mold. The seller hesitantly said "457 obviously"
I also looked at Arsenal's offerings, as well as Accurate's designs...and finally decided, for better or worse, on the NOE. I haven't bought from NOE for a number of years and I know some here have not had the best luck with NOE molds, ...and while I've had a couple molds from NOE, that I wasn't happy with, I have been happy with my other NOE molds (12 or so).
The thing that clinched it, was the NOE 460-393RN design (based on Lyman 457483), having a tapered GC shank. I have a pile of the Lyman/Ideal 45 Rifle GCs that I am hoping will be a perfect fit. My measuring of the GCs and the NOE Bullet diagram dimensions tell me they will. Is that a stupid reason to buy a mold? because I got a pile of GCs?
ALSO...
I woke up one of Ben's threads, a while back, about one he has and I sure wish I could get so lucky to find an Ideal like that.
So now comes the question I want to ask all my friends here.
Someone on the other forum made this comment in a thread, directed to another caster that was having problems with a 452 Ideal mold dropping bullets that were .455/.456
...I mean .003+ larger? that's just crazy, ain't it?
Anyway, if this were true, it would explain to me why Ben's Ideal mold drops a large size bullet, compared to other 457483 Lyman molds I've read about, that drop small bullets (.458 or smaller) with COWW or similar alloy.
What are ya'lls thoughts?
I've been himmin and hawwin over a 45-70 mold, since I sold a NOE 405gr FN mold, that I wasn't happy with. I'm thinking I really like the Lyman 457483. I've researched and read about experiences, and though most seem many drop a skinny bullet, I am still liking that basic design.
I passed on a nice Lyman sgl cav. w/handles for a reasonable price on fleabay, cuz I couldn't get a decent answer to what size bullets dropped from the seller's mold. The seller hesitantly said "457 obviously"
I also looked at Arsenal's offerings, as well as Accurate's designs...and finally decided, for better or worse, on the NOE. I haven't bought from NOE for a number of years and I know some here have not had the best luck with NOE molds, ...and while I've had a couple molds from NOE, that I wasn't happy with, I have been happy with my other NOE molds (12 or so).
The thing that clinched it, was the NOE 460-393RN design (based on Lyman 457483), having a tapered GC shank. I have a pile of the Lyman/Ideal 45 Rifle GCs that I am hoping will be a perfect fit. My measuring of the GCs and the NOE Bullet diagram dimensions tell me they will. Is that a stupid reason to buy a mold? because I got a pile of GCs?
ALSO...
I woke up one of Ben's threads, a while back, about one he has and I sure wish I could get so lucky to find an Ideal like that.
IDEAL 457483
IDEAL 457483 , I shot some yesterday from my 45/70, deadly accurate with my load. I'm getting a nice, round .460" with ACWW's. I'm shooting these out of a Knight K P - 1, , 45/70 with a Green Mountain barrel. My load that shot so well yesterday was 21.0 grs. of 2400 with the...
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So now comes the question I want to ask all my friends here.
Someone on the other forum made this comment in a thread, directed to another caster that was having problems with a 452 Ideal mold dropping bullets that were .455/.456
Can this be true? that some old Ideal molds drop .003"+ with COWW or similar alloy, than with a alloy like 20:1 ?Many old Ideal moulds will invariably cast large with ternary alloys. Many of the earlier Ideal moulds were cut for alloys well before Lyman [not to be confusing Lyman moulds with Ideal moulds] standardized on #2 alloy. Many pistol bullets were cut for binary alloy of lead to tin or even Lyman #1 alloy all of which gave greater shrinkage than ternary alloys.
...I mean .003+ larger? that's just crazy, ain't it?
Anyway, if this were true, it would explain to me why Ben's Ideal mold drops a large size bullet, compared to other 457483 Lyman molds I've read about, that drop small bullets (.458 or smaller) with COWW or similar alloy.
What are ya'lls thoughts?