well, since we are having this convo again, I was at the St. Paul gunshow last sunday, two vendors had primers. Both vendors had packages that were vintage ratty boxes, $150 per 1k at one table and $155 at the other. I didn't notice any powder, but since I wasn't looking to buy any, I wasn't looking real hard. I got a pretty good deal on some 1x 38spl Match WC brass and some used 41Mag brass. Prices on vintage S&W revolvers were nutso...the only prices below $1k were some police trade-in Mod 64, there was a pile of 8 of them, they looked pretty rough, $399 for choice.