Privi Partizan rifle brass

RBHarter

West Central AR
Well knowing now that nny is PPU I have some 7.62x39 for an SKS that's closer to 8x39 that has zero failures on something north of 15 cycles in a window of 30-35 kpsi full length sized 1/3 and necked back up to .316 to hold .3165 paper patch and .318 GC .
I don't recall annealing , but I got what I needed loaded a bunch and haven't fooled with it anymore .
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
Yeah, those "n"s are actually the Cyrillic "P", which is the same character as the Greek
pi, used in circle calculations, but we normally see the lower case script version, like in this common
equation
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. The Cyrillic alphabet took a number of Greek characters right in,
same shape, same sound. Like the Greeks took some from the Phoenicians.

Modern upper case looks like this П, and a common problem for folks new to Cyrillic can be the lambda
character, also taken from Greek alphabet. The upper case font look nearly the same, but
a tiny bit of a hook on the lower left, like this Л. This transliterates as an L. The last
character is the У, which transliterates as U. So П[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pe_(Cyrillic)']П[/URL]У in Serbian, is PPU in English.

This all confused me a lot when I first had to deal with it, and I am still slow at transliteration,
but years of working with it slowly beat it into my head.

Under any name, good brass.

Bill
 
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KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
Bill - appreciate explanation of alphabetic history. Learn something new every day!
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
You are welcome. I traveled for business in the former soviet union for about 10 yrs, so was
exposed to Cyrillic alphabet. Cyrillic isn't so bad, a few the same as English, many the same
as Greek, so my math/science background had exposed me to that.

I was also exposed to Armenian and Georgian alphabets, too. Two tiny countries, hard up against each other,
with totally different alphabets, and each a REAL challenge. Never managed to make head or tails
of either of them.

These are REALLY difficult. The Armeninans are particularly proud of their unique alphabet.

Armenian:
alphabet1.jpg


or Georgian

georgian-alphabet.jpg


YIKES! I see three that I recognize in Armenian, two in Georgian!
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
I'm struck by how much Georgian letters look like they could be formed by hand/finger positions.
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
Maybe that is the historic basis, I have no idea. Thank goodness that all the Georgian and Armenian
signs all had either Russian or English also on the sign. By then, I could read enough Rooski to know
what a store was. Never had a need to learn Armenian or Georgian, and was happy at that.

Bill
 

Kenneth Dahl

New Member
I have Lapua and Privi Partisan 7.62 X 54R and as far as durability I can not see the difference. The Lapua may have more uniform flash holes but not that it would make any difference in a M39 Mosin.

Ken
 

Roger Allen

Active Member
Your results may vary but I shot 762x54 for a decade reloading. My load was 18.0 gr 2400 w 180 gr lee bullets checked. I shot that brass over 10 times to a point I was like I'm not shooting this brass anymore way to scared to go any further w this endeavor. Love ppu brass and would recommend it. I find their pistol brass all the time and live it too.
 

Bohica

Member
I have had nothing but problems with primer pockets in PPU brass. I purchased 100 new PPU 6.5 Grendel brass approximately 18 months ago. On the first firing I had three blown primers out of 20 rounds, none of which were anywhere near max loads. All of the other fired brass after the first use had pockets so loose I would not reuse them. I took the whole lot and threw them in the recycle bucket. Three months later I received a notice that all of the PPU 6.5 Grendel rounds had been recalled. I fished all of the brass out of the bucket, returned it and receive 60 loaded rounds of 45/70 to replace it (Only thing on their exchange list I could use). Since then, I had been leery of PPU brass but could not find any other 7.62x54R than PPU. Same story...loose primer pockets, primers seat too deep.....all into the recycle bucket. I won't buy PPU again.
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
Odd. Given that PPU is a former soviet country, I would think that they would be experts at 7.62x54.
But maybe they were used to berdan primers, and somehow got that part wrong.

About 8 seasons on PPU/Graf brass in 7.5 Swiss, started losing brass to neck cracks after about
5 or 6 reloads, started annealing necks, almost entirely stopped that.
Not doubting the problems, just never had any myself.

Bill
 

waco

Springfield, Oregon
Interesting. I loaded my 338 Lapua brass with Fed. primers. All looks well. Still need to shoot them though.......
I'll report back when I get around to that.