Question for the Savages

Spindrift

Spindrift

Well-Known Member
I’ve been considering building another .35 whelen, that is a bit lighter than the one I have.

Our national branch of Brownells have one barrel kit, that they are practically giving away. Complete with go/no-go gauges, and wrench

E. R. Shaw Barrel Kit Savage 110 35 Whelen Factory Magnum Contour 1 in 14" Twist​


My local gunshop have a Weather warrior 116 in 30-06 for a very reasonable price.

Just to make sure..... these will go together, right?
 
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obssd1958

Well-Known Member
As long as the barrel shank is the same size on both, they'll interchange. Large shank vs. small shank - the small shank looks like a continuous taper, from the threads/barrel nut, to the muzzle. The large shank has a noticeable step just in front of the barrel nut.
 
Joshua

Joshua

Taco Aficionado/Salish Sea Pirate/Part-Time Dragon
From what I have read, the large shanks are only used for large fat bodied magnum cartridges. WSM or RUM cartridges use large shank barrels.

Any barrels made to fit cartridges based on the 30-06 should be using small shank barrels.

I may someday buy a 358 barrel for this Savage I’m purchasing, so I’ve been reading up about the swaps. I’ve no real life experience with barrel nuts so take what I have to say with a few grains of salt.
 
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Tomme boy

Tomme boy

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110,112,116 are all long action. 10,12,16 are all short action. Savage has I think 4 different action screw spacing. The target actions are all large shank. Older savages have their own spaci g requirements and parts don't actually interchange with newer versions. I think it is the pre 90's ones that are the ones that don't interchange.
 
RicinYakima

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Yes, I have the first accu-trigger savage I ever saw and it is a police sniper .308. It has the laminated wood camo stock. I wanted to replace it with a black plastic one for hunting, but I can't find one with the right spacing. I think it is a 2004 Model 10 FP.

Internet info: (There were also two types of receivers: ones with 4.275" distance between action bolts, and ones with 4.4" distance. 10fps in 223 that I have are of the former variety, and 308s are of the later. I do not know if there ever were 308 models with 4.275" actions.)
 
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Spindrift

Spindrift

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Thank you all, for good info!
I am not familiar with the Shaw barrels. After a bit of research, I see they are budget barrels with a little mixed feedback.
I will ponder this a little.
If I already had the Savage rifle, I would just buy the barrel- it is very cheap! But I’d have to buy a new Savage rifle as well.
For (about) the same price, I can get a used howa/weatherby vanguard/Ruger M77/ Rem 700, and install a barrel of known quality. Which is maybe wiser, all things considered.
 
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slam45

New Member
Spindrift said:
I’ve been considering building another .35 whelen, that is a bit lighter than the one I have.

Our national branch of Brownells have one barrel kit, that they are practically giving away. Complete with go/no-go gauges, and wrench

E. R. Shaw Barrel Kit Savage 110 35 Whelen Factory Magnum Contour 1 in 14" Twist​


My local gunshop have a Weather warrior 116 in 30-06 for a very reasonable price.

Just to make sure..... these will go together, right?
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i have a savage 110 with a Shaw 338-06 24" factory mag contour...it shoots wonderfully, but it is very heavy, does not sling well and is not handy at all... even with the slightly bigger hole in the middle I'd look at a lighter contour and a 22" barrel if a handy easy packing rifle is what you are after... i love the rifle i have but it is not one for packing deep into the brush...
 
RBHarter

RBHarter

West Central AR
ER Shaw used to be an inexpensive vender and was the maker of all of the Savage barrels . They may still be at the low end of the cost window but they aren't cheap , in either way , anymore .

Savage has lots of parts that don't interchange , the 10/110 barrels aren't included in that list . Standard and most belted mags since the WSM cartridges are small shank . The 284 Win should be in a large shank but never was .

All 110s are not short actions , I had one that was a short action .

Stocks , triggers , bolt head buffers , and magazines are the major trouble makers . As I understand it there are 4 screw patterns that amount to long , short , Accutrigger , and Axis . Center to center on the screws gives you what you need along with top and bottom bolt release combinations . Also one piece mounts I have no suggestions to ease this part other than measure CTC on the holes .

Barrel swaps are very easy unless you have a base model Axis ....... A solvent wand , pressure washer , or the like is a great idea for the first disassembly with the front scope mount removed .
 
Ian

Ian

Notorious member
Split the barrel nut with a cut-off wheel and replace it if the smooth type with steel blasting beads jammed under it
 
Tomme boy

Tomme boy

Well-Known Member
110 ,112,116 are all long actions. The 3 number code is what means it is a long action. They made lots of short action calibers in the long action. They instal a spacer in the mag to limit the space. The first accu triggers were all the 4.27" spacing. They are also a stagger feed mag. Then they went to center feed when the action spacing went to the 4.4" spacing.

Then you have the target actions. They are either 2 or 3 screw spacing. I don't remember the spacing. But you can leave out the middle screw on the 3 screw actions. And they are all large thread barrels.
 
RBHarter

RBHarter

West Central AR
I owned the freak factory marked 308 Winchester in a true short action 110 . It did not have a spacer in it . It was shorter nearly an inch rear tang bolt to muzzle than the 06' that would feed a 3.99 oal . It was probably a mistake . They exist .

Of course I had an Illion assembled marked 2010 1895 made out of North Haven cut parts so .......... If it's a freak I probably had it .
 
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slam45

New Member
I'm not sure when Savage changed the model numbers... i have 2 110L's from 1959 ( first year of production of the left hand action) an '06 which is the same length as the current long action and a 308win that is the long gone intermediate action length... both of these rifles have a cone breach, and a standing ejector and a different trigger configuration than later production... my point is for many years they were all Savage 110's regardless of action length and it is a resent change that they made the 11x model assignment short action... I do know there has been many generations and changes since the beginning of the 110 line.
 
Kevin Stenberg

Kevin Stenberg

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Yesterday i ordered a barrel from Shaw. They estimate an 18 week delivery time frame.
Barrels can be ordered anywhere from the barrel in the white with the bore and twist complete. To a complete finished barrel. If you want a fluted barrel that alone will add 150$ + to the price.
 
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