Ruined mould ?

[Pistolero]

OK, I'll look at the other mold more closely. I just kept hearing good then bad, then
"the fixed it" and "mine is junk" on the Bator.... never really knew what was what.
Sounds like still a crap shoot so why not get a known good mold instead?

HMMM. The only mold that Lee makes in .22 cal for rifles (didn't look at handguns, but
probably nothing there) is called C225-55-RF, which MidSouth is calling the Bator mold.

One and the same or has the Bator name been attached to a different mold or what???

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.c...or-point225-Diameter-2-Cavity-Mold-C225-55-RF

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/Dept/reloading/lead-bullet-casting/lee-moulds/-point-225-dia

Bill

 

[RBHarter]

This is the Bator I have if the NOE 22-55 will shoot in a 222 I will likely be sending this 2C on its way .

 

[Pistolero]

Ok, that is clearly nothing like the "Bator" mold that MidSouth is showing in their sales page, or
the C225-55RF that Lee shows (same image, a computer graphics thing, not a photo) on their
page.

Bill

 

[RBHarter]

Side by side. NOE 22-55 which tips in at 62 gr and the 22 Bator 50 gr ,straight WW 51gr the current 225-55 in the 6C is a "our version" of the RCBS 22-55 .

 

[JonB]

snip...
Anybody have a recent ".22 Bator" from MidSouth that they know has good dimensions and works
well?
Bill

Bill,
I had a discussion about this with a fellow at the other site. He had bought a 2 cav mold from Midsouth and kept calling it a bator, but when he shared Photo's, it was clearly the RCBS clone as Lee now offers as a stock mold.

If I were a bettin' man (and I am), I'd bet Midsouth's purchasing agent decided that a stock mold was the way to go, instead of a custom, due to price, cuz a 22 cal 55gr mold is a 22 cal 55gr mold, right?

Although, I could be wrong, and Lee just screwed up a shipment. When you look at midsouth's page
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.c...or-point225-Diameter-2-Cavity-Mold-C225-55-RF
one of the images they include is a "drawing" of the Bator...NOT the RCBS clone...at least the measurements match my Bator Molds...except a couple of them that were way out of spec, and more suited for a .22 Savage High Power.

 

[fiver]

they show the RF but attached the Bator name to it in both of the mid-south links.

might just have been habit or the computer added it on.
heck maybe they done away with the old one.

 

[Pistolero]

Well the drawing looks like the Bator, but the computer "photo" looks like the Lee std
55 gr......

Not easy to know what they would actually send you.

Bill

 

[Ian]

Call them and get someone to go open a box. Unlike some of the bigger outfits, Midsouth has been very accommodating to me in the past in this respect.

I have reservations about the Lee 22-55 RF being an "RCBS 55-grain" copy, they are in fact only similar in weight, band diameter, and rounded lube groove. The length is very different due to RCBS having a thinner nose, the check shank, and lube groove radius are all different between the two. I prefer the Lee.

 

[fiver]

the bigger nose is a good idea.
it took me forever to lap my rcbs 2 cavity out to 219 at the base of the nose.
it was worth all the effort though, and is why the HM-2 mold was cut like it was.