Savage 308 Win.

[Ben]

Quicksylver, gave me a Lee , .30 cal. , 160 gr. RN bullet mould about a yr. ago.
He was unhappy with it and sent the bullet mould to me.
Once it arrived and I cast a few bullets with the mould, I could see why he had the feelings that he had about the mould.

I lapped out the mould and eventually it began to turn out decent bullets.
It turns out that the mould design produces a bullet now that shoots real well out of my Savage 110, .308 Win.

The Lee 160 RN with my aluminum checks .014", sized .310 ", Wolf LR primers, 10.0 grs. Unique, bullet lightly seated into the rifling.

5 rounds fired @ 50 yards.

 

[freebullet]

Well done, Ben. That's a beaut.

 

[Ben]

It is a fun rifle at the range.
I like it.

Ben

 

[quicksylver]

Dang Ben ...you sure can bring them back to life..

Looks like that resurrected mold and gun were ment for each other...

Great shooting ...

 

[Ben]

Thanks Dan,

Time , patience , and some sweat will often times pay big dividends with a bullet mould.

Ben

 

[fiver]

especially the patience part.

 

[Rally Hess]

Nice shooting and rifle Ben. Did you do the stock work also?

 

[Ben]

I glass bedded the rifle and finished the outside of the rifle.

Thanks,
Ben

 

[Winelover]

Nice 50 yard group.....but what will it do at 100 yards?

 

[Ben]

Winelover

I haven't shot it at 100 yet .
Why don't you take a few minutes and show us what your rifles do at 100 yds.
I'd like to see it.

Ben

 

[Winelover]

I have, if you followed my AR 308 thread. Semi-auto's and cast is a whole different ballgame. You can't get away with low velocity loadings, that fail to cycle the action, even though they may shoot cloverleafs. I can't count the number of three or five shots that fell into one hole at 100 yards.....try getting 10 to do that, without a barrel cool down period. I'm still trying.


http://www.artfulbullet.com/index.php?threads/ar-10-and-cast.1012/page-3

I personally, don't shoot my rifles at less than 100 yards, unless I mount a new scope and want to make sure I'm on paper. Distances less than 100 yards, is reserved for carbines and or pistols. IMO

 

[Ben]

I can tell that you didn't like that....................

Ben

 

[Winelover]

Now that you mention it, I can't recall ever seeing a 100 yard target posted by you. Plenty of 50 yarders. Might be you don't have access to a 100 yard range.

 

[Ben]

When we go to the range, not all of us shoot the same way that others do.
There are a few aspects of shooting that I don't care for, but I don't make an
issue of it here on this forum.

A person should have the ability to shoot the caliber, the ammo, and the distances that they enjoy. Enjoyment should be the name of the game.

Ben

 

[Winelover]

Silly me....I thought I was here to learn something.

Low velocity rifle testing, at hand gun distances, isn't exactly ground breaking science.

 

[Longone]

Ben,

Curious about your bedding job. Was it front and rear of action or full length front to rear of action? I have done a few Savage LA bedding jobs and for me the best results have been bedding from the front of the lug to rear of the action with the safety tang free floated. The target action I had ( three screw) was torque sensitive but the LA never seemed to be.
Some folks bed a little in front of the lug, maybe an inch or so of the barrel but I never found it made any difference and was once described as a good place for heat to build up, having air space at that point will allow the chamber/ throat area to cool a little quicker.

 

[Brother_Love]

When we go to the range, not all of us shoot the same way that others do.
There are a few aspects of shooting that I don't care for, but I don't make an
issue of it here on this forum.

A person should have the ability to shoot the caliber, the ammo, and the distances that they enjoy. Enjoyment should be the name of the game.

Ben

Ben,
Exactly. I have shot in completions my whole life but now I shoot for enjoyment only. The distance is not as important to me as is sitting st the bench and hearing my rifle go boom. And there is the added bonus of smelling the burnt powder. As I approach 70 yrs old I like just walking 50 yds as opposed to 100 to change targets.

I am thinking about another Savage myself. Good looking rifle you got there.

Malcolm

 

[KeithB]

I can think of lots of good reasons for shooting a conventional rifle at 50 yards. The one that comes to mind first is developing an accurate load for shooting small game with reduced loads in an otherwise overly powerful rifle. A perfect reason to use cast bullets over moderate powder charges.

On the other hand, I can appreciate folks who want to wring out the last bit of accuracy and range from their favored shooting irons. As I get older I can understand more and more just wanting to relax, take things easy, and appreciate what is going on around you when you can.

I love reading Ben's posts, it's obvious he's a craftsman that likes to cast perfect bullets and make pretty loads that shoot well at his favored range. I love reading other folks posts, many of them about various aspects of longer range shooting. It's all good!

 

[Ben]

Thanks fellows,

Ben

 

[quicksylver]

.......I am fortunate to have access ( in our area) to 50-200yd ranges....600+ over cranberry bogs if we don't do it too often..
I prefer the 100 yd ranges..perhaps for a very odd reason....shooting especially in competition is mostly a mind game...that being said my mind works against me at 50 yds..
it says " boy at this range you can't miss"....out goes the concentration and I end up with very disappointing groups...start at 100 and my mind settles in and says "pay attention!"

Honestly I could not shoot groups like Ben's at 50 yds...throw in a scope and it would be an absolute waste of components....

I will confess and mention that I have apparently passed this odd behavior on to my nephew...he was popping soda cans with my S&W 29 (8 3/8") at about 60 yds...1-2-3 no problem..
at the end of the range session we had 5 rounds left over ..so to get rid of them quickly he threw a can out to about 25'...yep missed with every round...thought he just couldn't miss and didn't pay attention...BTW it's no way to leave a range session..missing with every round..

As for the 5 round vs 10 round thing...the only thing that a ten round group will show you is how well the shooter can hold up..nothing to do with the gun except the barrel heating up...eyes go, arms go and the mind gets tired...break a 10 round up into two 5 round groups whole different story....

Besides after 35+ years competing and a garage full of trophies I am just plain out there for the fun....too each his own... enjoy the sport and keep'em flying...Dan