Single Cav. IDEAL 358156

[Bret4207]

Nope, just the 358156 because there is data from 1950 to present for both 38 Special and 357 Magnum.

Gotcha!

 

[Bret4207]

By some distance, the #358156 is my most-used bullet design in 357 Magnum. My version is a Lyman of mid-1980s vintage, and it has alwAys shot well for me. It was a great coincidence that my old shop first authorized the 357 Magnum in 1994, using the W-W Super-X 158 grain JHP loading. That persisted until ~2015, when they finally twigged to the FBI-Blessed Federal #357B load by Federal, which prompts a 125 grain JHP to 1440 FPS or thereabouts. ToMAYto, toMAHto. There are no bad loads in 357 Magnum used as felon repellant. 13.5 grains of Alliant 2400 gives the #358156 the same performance as the Super-X JHPs, about 1235 FPS in my 4" 686. You might want to consult an Alliant reloading data sheet just to be safe, but that load I listed has done no damage to a Model 19 and a Model 66 that lived here for some time.

I recall a discussion, (on line war of words) on The Site That Shall Not Be Named when I opined the 9mm was nothing but a 38 Special autoloader and mentioned the "Skeeter Load". You'd have thought it was the end of the world. Had to finally dig up older loading manuals that had that exact load in the 38 Spec before the name calling and frothing at the mouth subsided. They'd never heard of a 38 Spec load that got much past 1K, much less 12-1300.

Times change.

 

[hornetguy]

I recall a discussion, (on line war of words) on The Site That Shall Not Be Named when I opined the 9mm was nothing but a 38 Special autoloader and mentioned the "Skeeter Load". You'd have thought it was the end of the world. Had to finally dig up older loading manuals that had that exact load in the 38 Spec before the name calling and frothing at the mouth subsided. They'd never heard of a 38 Spec load that got much past 1K, much less 12-1300.

Times change.

Yep.... "Me and Joe.... " good stuff...
I saw a load the other day in a manual (Lyman??) that listed a 38 sp load that hit 1200.... I was surprised to see it. Probably wouldn't use it in my snubby, but my Mod 64 would probably do well with it.