Some old Photos for your enjoyment

glassparman

"OK, OK, I'm going as fast as I don't want to go!"
Yep! Mad Man Muntz of Van Nuys. For those history buffs, Earl Muntz was a tinkerer of electronics. He developed the first automotive tape deck. Two channels in stereo thus the 4-track. Bill Lear of Lear jet rode in a friend's Corvette and heard the 4-track playing some music. He went to Muntz with ideas of how to improve the tape deck but Muntz rejected all of the ideas. So Mr. Lear went on his own and developed the modern day 8-track.

Earl Muntz was originally producing TV's. He also bought the Kurtis automobile company and rebranded it to the Muntz Jet. Earl also had used car dealerships around Southern California. He was the original crazy car salesman. His commercials showed him in red long johns and a hat like Napoleon. In his commercials he said "my wife thinks I'm crazy because I would give away cars".

Just a side note, the 4-track had a hole in the bottom for the drive wheel to pop up inside the tape. It also had the tape on top of the unit rather than inside the deck like the 8-track.

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JonB

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Just a side note, the 4-track had a hole in the bottom for the drive wheel to pop up inside the tape. It also had the tape on top of the unit rather than inside the deck like the 8-track.

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Is that 4-track a take off of the "cart" ...what radio stations used?
Cart is a nickname used by radio engineers/programmers, for the Fidelipac audio tape cartridge.

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JonB

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I answered my own question.

"The A size Fidelipac cartridge was later adapted by Earl "Madman" Muntz in partnership with George Eash in 1963 for his Stereo-Pak cartridge system (also known as a 4-track cartridge), which differed in two ways — the number of tracks used (four in this case, with two played back at a time to provide a total of two programs of stereo audio), and the tape speed (3+3⁄4 ips—the same speed as 8-track cartridges, as opposed to Fidelipac's standard 7+1⁄2 ips). Unlike the Fidelipac players which used a stationary head, the Stereo-Pak system used a movable head to switch between the two programs (much like the 8-track format, which also used a movable head to select its four stereo programs)."

 

popper

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Yup, I forget the 8 track. Remember the Muntz TV, wasn't a very good unit - would just work. But for the times, TV wasn't much either. Argued with uncle about the 8 vs cassette, he said cassette was better. I agreed but only after Dolby compression came out. tape recording bandwidth is determined by magnetic area.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I came of age at the end of the 8 track/cassette battle. I bought a 68 Chevelle that had a Radio Shack cassette deck pop riveted to the dash under the glove box, IIRC. The previous owner had simply pop riveted the ground wire under one of the mounting pads. The result on our horrible Central Adirondack roads was that the vibration soon started wearing the aluminum pop rivets out. So my girl (Present day wife! Been together since 1977!) and I would be riding along listening to "Bread", "The Bay City Rollers", Linda Rondstat or John Denver and suddenly the tape would just stop. She'd reach over and smack it and the music would return.

Ah, the golden memories of youth!
 

Walks

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I remember these, We only used them in the house. Set up the targets in our entry way an shot them from about 6ft away. From the steps into our sunken living room. There was a rifle too, a model of a Win 73 that used the "Shootin' Shells" . No caps in the house though.
About 60yrs ago. Great days

The "50 Fanner" used roll caps that advanced when ever the revolver was cocked. 50 caps to a roll.
 
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L Ross

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I remember these, We only used them in the house. Set up the targets in our entry way an shot them from about 6ft away. From the steps into our sunken living room. There was a rifle too, a model of a Win 73 that used the "Shootin' Shells" . No caps in the house though.
About 60yrs ago. Great days

The "50 Fanner" used roll caps that advanced when ever the revolver was cocked. 50 caps to a roll.
Perfected by the Maynard tape priming system, evolved into a toy. Sort of like the Wolf evolving into a Shitzu.
 

Dusty Bannister

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Kids learning to respect those that have served, and serving others as well. I hate to think what our kids are being taught these days. Some of the nicest people I know were "home schooled" so that tells me something.
 
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Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Buffalo Bill Cody.. in fact it's a "tintype of a Young Buffalo Bill Cody Posed with Guns and Game. Published in Wilson & Martin's Buffalo Bill's Wild West: An American Legend- described to have been taken at Fort McPherson, Nebraska, circa 1871, and illustrates Cody's flair for showmanship even before he became a performer.

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richhodg66

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Looking at that picture of the cub scouts, the huge pine cone one is holding brings back a lot of memories. I'm a midwesterner now, but grew up in the deep south where most of teh trees were these ugly yellow pines (big weeds as far as I'm concerned) but those things were common and were the basis for all kindsof Christmas, Thanksgiving craft/deecoration projects in my young days. Don't have any trees around here that produce cones much, not native ones anyway.
 

Rockydoc

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Buffalo Bill Cody.. in fact it's a "tintype of a Young Buffalo Bill Cody Posed with Guns and Game. Published in Wilson & Martin's Buffalo Bill's Wild West: An American Legend- described to have been taken at Fort McPherson, Nebraska, circa 1871, and illustrates Cody's flair for showmanship even before he became a performer.

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I think this picture is printed in reverse. The rifle at the top looks like a lefty. The extractors on the pistols are on the wrong side. Buffalo Bill wasn’t a southpaw was he?
 

Snakeoil

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I think this picture is printed in reverse. The rifle at the top looks like a lefty. The extractors on the pistols are on the wrong side. Buffalo Bill wasn’t a southpaw was he?
Good catch. You see this a lot in old photos. Most famous was the Bill the Kid photo that had everyone saying that he was a lefty.

The Colt on the left looks like a cartridge conversion because the operating lever is missing. Or, it could very well be an 1871 Colt which was the first metallic cartridge pistol that they produced, before the SAA was developed.

What is sticking out of BB's jacket. Looks like a handle for something, but has a peg sticking out of it. Maybe it's part of that rifle.

Not sure Cody should get 100% credit for the artistic flare. My guess is the photographer played a role in the set up for the shot.