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California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
I fully understand Rick's sentiment, and I volunteered for that one-year Viet Nam gig, still manners mean a lot though they seem to have disappeared with the arrival of the '60s.
 
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Rick

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Seems Bret didn't grow up in SoCal in the 60's. Bad manners? Maybe but barely and compared with everything else going on at the time it barely turned a head.
 

Ian

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I think it's bad manners not to have a sense of humor.

It's also bad manners to impose your personal standards of holiness on the rest of humanity....would you have it done to you? I see that being "offended" or "triggered" isn't something unique to Millenial Snowflakes.

The First Amendment is first for a reason, my Oath Keeper friends. Larry Flynt's lawyer hated pornography but loved the rights guaranteed by the Constitution more. Think about that slippery slope for a minute before you cast stones.
 

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California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
Ian,
I think we are in agreement.

When Clinton was first elected, I put one of those Calvin pissing stickers on my truck's rear window, with "Clintons" below Calvin's stream, and it remained there for the next eight years. Yes, sir, amid Berkeley South.
(Should've done the same when ol' Barry had his stint.)
Yep, I was crude and ill-mannered, too. It was funny though!

By the way, I still say bless you when someone sneezes and hold doors open for others.

Not exactly sure what an Oath Keeper is, and turned a few pages of "Hustler" in my Air Force days.
 

fiver

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oath keeper is someone that spent time in the military, but double checked to see if he had to turn his oath to protect the constitution in when his enlistment was up.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
I have this huge misunderstanding about the Constitution . Some way or the other I got this weird idea that the short version prohibited the taking away of the right to do what , when , where , how and with whom we want so long as it doesn't interfere with another's right to the same and isn't morally repugnant . Every day it seems like that is further from the truth and morals/ethos/the right thing are more and more directed by law .

Of course I recognize that I'm saying that to a bunch of like minded weirdos with the same misunderstanding . ;)
 
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Rick

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This thread is getting pretty heavy into politics. Perhaps some thread drift to say off road school buses might be a good thing.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I meant no offense to anyone, just laying how things were where I grew up. As I said, in other places it obviously was different.

BTW, in closing, the 1st Amend as written in the BOR applies specifically to POLITICAL speech directed at the gov't, not your "right" to offend people. That was the 1960's thinking in play. Sorry if I rubbed anyone the wrong way, just the way it is.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
Out west there's a group of monster truckers with a bus and a fire truck , Airborne Ranger I think is the Ringleader .

20,000# of 28 mph 800 HP blown wet motor that won't spin a tire but will pull the frontend off the ground for 40' with a rolling lash throttle stab . Parades were a lot of fun in small town on Armed Forces Day Weekend .
 

david s

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I don't know if movie reviews belong here or not, but if you don't appreciate Political Correctness look up a book or movie called "Thank You For Smoking". It's pretty good, but fair warning nothing is considered sacred in it. The book was written by Christopher Buckley (W.F's son) and the movie follows the book pretty well. You may find a laugh in it.
 

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California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
oath keeper is someone that spent time in the military, but double checked to see if he had to turn his oath to protect the constitution in when his enlistment was up.

Okay, I searched Oath Keepers.
 

fiver

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before they went AARP, and turned into a charity organization, it was a pretty good group.
they lost most of their original members.

anyway.
back to the bus.... LOL.
if he thinks he is going anywhere around here with that thing, he better take off at least one set of those front tires and get his self a good set of chains.
a plow might be a good idea too if he is heading up towards grey's lake.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Yup, fat tires in snow just mean a lot of spinning and swearing. You don't go anywhere, but the speedo says 73mph. Snow wants the skinny little tires your great grand dad had on the 48 Buick Roadmaster or the ones Mom had on the Station wagon in '65.
 

Ian

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Tracks. How do those do in snow? The only thing I've found that swallows tracks is dry sand and gumbo mud. Too bad no one makes affordable, DOT legal, high- speed road tracks.
 

fiver

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tracks do real good in the snow.
they make bolt on kits for 4 wheelers and even pickup trucks.
they cost about as much as a snowmobile and you can't cross a river with them like you can the snow machine.
but they handle snow and slop pretty good.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Tracks work and our clay and snow is the main reason I own 3 or 4 tracked machines. They are also a pain and very, very expensive.
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
I don't know Bret, but I wouldn't be surprised if that bus went farther in snow than your thinking. I don't know what it has for a drive line, the weight of the bus nor the amount of displacement per square inch with all those tires. If displacement is less than 2.6 pounds per square inch, it could about float on top of anything short of sugar snow. It would take a pretty good driveline to turn them if he ever got too deep and the way it is built wouldn't take much to high center. The Argos are all tires and will run in snow or water with real light bodies and like 2.6 pounds per square inch displacement. The Marsh Masters are the best all season vehicle though, if you could afford one, but even those come with winches on them.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I would be it would be like every other 2 wd rig in snow- fine as long as it wasn't too deep or as long as there was no crust. At some point the floating ceases and all that width becomes a brake. I have fat, oversized tires on my F350. They are great in soft ground. On snow/ice they are about useless after a certain point even in 4WD. The skinny old 7.50-15's (about like an H78-15 for us old guys) with the zig zag snow tread on my Willys cut right through most of that stuff. An Argo or ATV/UTV with 4wd will go an amazing distance in snow. Our UTV has done a lot of work this winter, but without 4wd she'd be doing a lot of backing up and ramming forward.

There was a car dealership a few towns over from me a couple years back that had a truck, it was a diesel but I for get the make, with the 4 wheel track system on it. A guy I know who's into that stuff said it was over $40K to put it on the truck. I don't know who ended up with the truck, but there was a picture in the local on line news of the same truck with one of the tracks broken right off at some event. My understanding was the manufacturer was producing a $40K product that just didn't work.
 

Rick

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First thought I had when I saw that picture was . . . I wonder how big the power steering pump is? Then I wondered if it had a big block for the front wheel drive and a second big block for the rear drive. Maybe also a small block to run that power steering pump. :rolleyes: