Suppressed Revolver

[Full.lead.taco]

Another project I am working on is getting my old Russian Nagant Revolver threaded (and front sight recontoured). This will be my only suppressed revolver. I have not loaded ammo for it before, and really, haven't even shot it much other than to function test it. Have any of you guys cast and loaded for these old revolvers before? The ammo is the weirdest looking stuff.

 

[KHornet]

Yep ammo is weird, and so is trigger pull in double action. Think is
is somewhere above 20 pounds.

Paul

 

[Full.lead.taco]

Ha ha, that double action pull is indeed like 20 lbs or something.

 

[RicinYakima]

Ha ha, that double action pull is indeed like 20 lbs or something.

Been loading for it for 20+ years. Only brass that will work suppressed is S&B. Save heart ache and buy C&H/4D dies. Lee will not load full length cases.

 

[Ian]

[RUSSIAN ACCENT]Trigger is not made for puny Americans!![/RUSSIAN ACCENT]

 

[JWFilips]

Seen this very thing on youtube a few years ago! Have no Idea how to find it but it was interesting

 

[Pistolero]

Only in the movies, or with a Nagant. Those movie silencers are SO impressive.
FFFT. FFFFT.

Smokeywolf knows all their secrets. Like a good sound man.

Bill

 

[Rick]

Movie silencers are impressive? I've always been impressed with all those rifles and handguns being completely recoilless AND they never run out of ammo. Just keep right on shooting.

 

[Pistolero]

Movie magic. 1" diam by 3" long can on a snub .38 Spl, and it goes FFFFTT. Uh, yeah, right.

That was one plus for me in the shootout in Open Range - they ran out of ammo, changed guns and
reloaded in cover.

 

[358156 hp]

The only suppressed rifle caliber I've ever approved of has been 300BO. It "sounds" right to me. 223 was really disappointing, sort of like a std velocity 22LR. I'm thinking about a suppressed 458 SOCOM, if I have to keep a bullet subsonic, it will be a BIG subsonic bullet.

 

[fiver]

that is the key to quiet and still have enough energy to do the job.
I can see the appeal of the Russian revolver though, it provides a pretty good seal to the barrel.

 

[Ian]

The .45s are a challenge to suppress well, especially the .458 Socom, and most especially in an AR-15. Most supersonic rounds can only, and just barely, be suppressed to "hearing safe" levels, not to whisper quiet levels.

 

[Full.lead.taco]

The powders used also play a role in how loud or quiet a suppressed round is.

The .45s are a challenge to suppress well, especially the .458 Socom, and most especially in an AR-15. Most supersonic rounds can only, and just barely, be suppressed to "hearing safe" levels, not to whisper quiet levels.

 

[Full.lead.taco]

... if I have to keep a bullet subsonic, it will be a BIG subsonic bullet.

Did someone say BIG subsonic bullet? Ha ha, got just the right thing for you!

 

[RBHarter]

Maybe a little more meplat ?

 

[fiver]

I heard them clink when he hit them together.
I would also investigate that scrape on the front part, the two scrapes looked awful similar.

 

[KHornet]

Interesting, don't see much use for it, but it is interesting!

Paul

 

[Ian]

The powders used also play a role in how loud or quiet a suppressed round is.

You gotta work it from both ends. My .45 Form 1 can is too low on volume for a .458 Socom but does ok nonetheless. The pistol-length gas system lets me get away with faster powders, I found Longshot to be the perfect balance for my system. Herco is a bit louder at the port, and IMR 4198 and Reloder 7 both put way too much fire into the silencer, making the rifle very quiet at the port but a lot more loud at the muzzle. My AR-45 is really sensitive to powders since the gas port is literally in the throat and is bored a full .125". With Herco it is deafening at the port and with Titegroup it's loud at the muzzle end. 231 is perfect, but shoots patterns at any load level and Universal is the happy medium. I've actually put it on a meter and with Universal it's the same dB one meter to the left and even with the muzzle as it is 8" from the ejection port. Faster powders are louder at the muzzle and slower ones are louder at the port, if you call 118 dB loud...

 

[Brad]

I heard them clink when he hit them together.
I would also investigate that scrape on the front part, the two scrapes looked awful similar.

I noticed the clink too. Those are pretty hard bullets.
The scrapes are not from the plastic in my opinion. Makes me wonder if he is striking a baffle in the suppressor or something.

 

[fiver]

either there or the end of the chamber.