The Reloading Component Draught, When Will It Rain Again.

JustJim

Active Member
Honestly, the only difference between repaired streets in Lincoln, and streets being repaired is the presence, or lack thereof construction equipment. Street quality is the same, and most repairs only make the streets worse.
Part of why I no longer live in Lincoln. But no longer living there and no longer being there every day for work, if I don't check I'm not aware of construction til I'm stuck in the delays. What should have been a 2 hour trip last month took 5 hours due to construction delays and detours.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
We are now well into the fifth year of having streets, roads and highways being torn up. One section, a half-mile from my house, has been torn up and paved, torn up again and re-paved, and torn up a third time and re-re-paved.

Perhaps 30-years-ago, a section of sidewalk near my house was removed and replaced with a plain wheelchair section. Three-years-ago, the street was torn up so new water pipes could be laid. Replacing the plain wheelchair section with one of those yellow raised dots thingies was part of the doings. I asked the job inspector why. He said a plain wheelchair ramp works for those in wheelchairs, but the blind require the raised dots. I said in 45-years I have never seen anyone in a wheelchair use the plain ramp, nor have I ever seen a blind person walking on the sidewalk. Makes no difference, sidewalks have to be American With Disabilities compliant. So, for years crews have tearing up intersection sidewalks and making them ADA compliant. Thank you, George Herbert Walker Bush.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
ADA, not a bad idea or thought, but way overdone. The State of Arizona had 146 DOT rest areas in 1980, now they have 16, yep sixteen! Why? The old ones had pit toilets, unacceptable for ADA. What happened to the rest of them? Bulldozed down.
 
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Mitty38

Shatterpated Constituent
Just got some Winchester Magnum Small Pistol primers from the local gun shop. Had been on a waiting list for at least 6 months.

Paid 7 cents a piece for them. But was limited to two, one hundred primer, packs.
So I will be shooting some .357 H110 loads, next week.

I put myself back on the tail end of the list, for 200 regular small pistol primers.
I still have a healthy amount of pre primed lake city .223 brass so no shortage there.

However since I have been playing with black powder a lot the 209's and #11's are getting a little scarce.
Plenty of flint. But the only flintlock I have is the old "Trapper". It is just a wrist bitter so not using up the flint anytime soon.

Not making any big purchases till I am sure the price has bottomed and availability is better. But what I have and have coming will fill my pistol needs for now.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
Powder Valley has had some powders I'd like to have just for stash, but current pricing is not at all inviting.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
there was some bullets on the shelf today when I stopped in the sportsmans.
they had quite a bit of ammo, even some shot shells.
the most surprising was they had a shelf mostly full of scopes, and a wall full of handguns.
no powder, no 22's, no primers.
the shotgun shelf was at maybe 35% and the rifle section was at maybe 90%.
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
Once the supply pipeline fills itself back up and people stop reflex-buying-just-because, the feeding frenzy will abate--the shelves will fill up--the back rooms will start getting clogged--and the consumables will start getting discounted (again). Maybe not as cheap as 2018 pricing, but the buccaneer-level tariffs will be a thing of the past. This occurs EVERY TIME a "shortage" dissipates. When the shelves fill up and the allotment schemes come to an end, THAT is the time to stock up for the next drought, because they seem to happen in conjunction with Prez elections very predictably.
 

John G

Well-Known Member
I think this shortage will abate somewhat but go on throughout this current administration. The anti gun fervor is stronger now then I can remember. It will ease up some as manufacturers catch up a little, but November 2022 will potentially bring things as close to normal as we're going to get. Remember there are a lot of new gun owners out there to add to the component and ammo demand.
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
True enough, John G. Lots of new shooters, and the ammo shortage is pushing people toward reloading & casting. It remains to be seen whether the ammo & component makers will step up their games to meet this new demand level, or stick to their antiquated demand forecasts. Lots of moving parts in this machine, for sure.
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
I’m of the opinion that we will never see the prices that were the norm in 2019 ever again. :oops:

No, it seems there's a bot of hysteresis involved after each shortage. Sort of like a particular huge retailer jacking the price of a can of soup, quietly, by 30%, but then making a huge deal out of a "rollback" on the same can of soup a week later, which then nets a real increase of only 20%. People are relieved to "pay less" and overlook the real increase. I'm not saying the component industry will do this on purpose so much as taking what people will still be willing to pay.

My unqualified hypothesis regarding the retailer mentioned has no tangible proof, but it sure LOOKED fishy when it happened repeatedly over the course of a couple years.

I've still got $10/k primers stuck in my head, and remember when they went up to $12/k and stayed there. I actually found small rifle S&B primers for $22/k toward the end of the last drought, and CCI small pistol for the same price, the day before THIS ONE hit. On the pistol primers, I waited a day and then a week, and one evening it just hit me out of the blue to BUY SOME! I wasn't even thinking about it. It was a weird and sudden urge and I got up from what I was doing and ordered some. Shared the experience via e-mail with a friend, which he didn't read until the following morning and they were all GONE - EVERYWHERE.

Dumb luck, right there. I have no special "vision," so I will NOT wait for that premonition the next time.;)
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
True enough, John G. Lots of new shooters, and the ammo shortage is pushing people toward reloading & casting. It remains to be seen whether the ammo & component makers will step up their games to meet this new demand level, or stick to their antiquated demand forecasts. Lots of moving parts in this machine, for sure.

I continue to hope that many of the newcomers will decide it's not worth reloading when ammo starts to come back, that they will lose interest and taper off buying when ammo comes back, or, better yet, that suppliers will have enough reason to expand production, or external sources will be able to start filling voids.

It can't hurt to have all the new buyers continue to buy IF the new, increased demand is eventually met. I get it if the manufacturers are skeptical that this surge is not going to continue, but if it does, we could possibly be better off if economies of scale are exploited by increased production capabilities.

Those making and selling the stuff probably know better than I what they should prepare for. I hope.
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
I worry about all the brand new shooters buying guns, what they need more than anything is practice time and with the ammo shortage they aren't getting it.
That IS scary. How devoted will they be, and how much damage could occur if they're not, are worrisome things.
 

Joshua

Taco Aficionado/Salish Sea Pirate/Part-Time Dragon
I really glad that I was doing quite a bit of research into how to use different powders a few years ago.

I noticed a trend in my research. I would search for a topic on the boards, I would find threads where people were asking lots of questions about this or that powder that they had not used before, and the timing of these questions was often tied to a shortage.

I saw more than a few folks on this board and on others advise to stock up when prices where low. So I did.

I expect that I will start buying primers when they drop to $40.00. I think we will get there. I bought them for as low as $20 on sale before all this. I’m not happy about paying twice as much. But I don’t think we will see sub $30.00 prices again.
 

Loren

Member
Hopefully, all the new gun owners will be voting for Pro 2A candidates and send those that are not packing.

Was in Wally World this last Saturday. Their supply lines are still hurting. A lot of shelves empty or half full. This mess created is going to take a while before it is all straightened out.
 

John G

Well-Known Member
My fear is with the current administrations attempt to make gun, ammo and component manufacturers liable for folks that use their products. A company would have a understandable hesitation in new expansion. Hopefully maximizing current facilities might be the best to hope for.

I worry about all the brand new shooters buying guns, what they need more than anything is practice time and with the ammo shortage they aren't getting it.

This could be a problem for gun accident statics which will provides more ammo for the anti's. Hopefully they have been advised to get training.