"Tonights Supper on the grill"

JonB

Halcyon member
Need to hit the flea markets to see what I can find. The old days of going to the dump for an old stove are long over due to liability issues. Although, our town has a recycling center at the dump. Might find one there. Guess I'm going to the dump today.
There is a hardware store in the next town over from me, that sells used appliances and they always have a few junker's out back. Something to thing about.
Last week, I helped a friend drop off a standard size electric kitchen range at the local metal recycling place...another thing to think about.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Only one issue with spatchcocked chicken................... you can't stuff it. :( When Cindy makes chicken it's usually all the same type of pieces. Like all boneless breasts, all drumsticks or all thighs. When she does a whole roasted chicken, it's stuffed with cranberry cornbread homemade stuffing.
 

fiver

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this thread toook off for a minute.

we were water bathing since we were just canning pumpkin pie filling that'd already been cooked.
speaking of which there's still about a dozen of the little eating pumpkins over to Littlegirls place if anyone is interested.
 

smokeywolf

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I've made a spatchcocked Turkey (small one) on my smoker grill. Now I've only done that one time, but it turned out great. The one thing about any turkey cooked on smoker grill, I've found the skin to be pretty much inedible. Which is sad, because it's kind of the best part with a oven roasted turkey, so that's a draw back for me.
Jon, you have to crank the temp up in the smoker/grill during the last 15 minutes of cooking to brown/char the skin. The smoke flavoring transferred to the meat happens mostly in the first 30 minutes of the cook. You may even have to pull the bird out of the smoker while you build up your fire/coals.
 

Snakeoil

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There is a hardware store in the next town over from me, that sells used appliances and they always have a few junker's out back. Something to thing about.
Last week, I helped a friend drop off a standard size electric kitchen range at the local metal recycling place...another thing to think about.
We are not what you would call "rural" around here. Although it is true small town living, we have a large contingent of mega-buck homes and their owners. No hardware store could get away with putting old appliances out back before someone in a Tesla would drive by, see it and call the local codes enforcement folks.

I'm kinda particular in what I want. I might just end up buying some sheet steel and bending up my own oven.

I gotta go over to my buddy's welding shop next week. He may have something out back. He's in the city, but in a section that is very commercial and a bit run down. He had a J-10 jet engine back there for a long time. He might have exactly what I need.
 
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JonB

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Jon, you have to crank the temp up in the smoker/grill during the last 15 minutes of cooking to brown/char the skin. The smoke flavoring transferred to the meat happens mostly in the first 30 minutes of the cook. You may even have to pull the bird out of the smoker while you build up your fire/coals.
Besides the rubberiness, which could surely be solved by 15 min char, the skin (of the one I did) absorbed way too much smoke...it was bitter.
 

L Ross

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Besides the rubberiness, which could surely be solved by 15 min char, the skin (of the one I did) absorbed way too much smoke...it was bitter.
Perhaps a milder smoking wood? When I smoke fish I use punky sugar maple because stuff like Hickory is way too strong for fish. I bet if you ask Glaciers he'll tell us they use lots of Alder for fish in Alaska. My Dad always used Apple wood. There may be an ideal wood for white meat fowl.
 

JonB

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Perhaps a milder smoking wood? When I smoke fish I use punky sugar maple because stuff like Hickory is way too strong for fish. I bet if you ask Glaciers he'll tell us they use lots of Alder for fish in Alaska. My Dad always used Apple wood. There may be an ideal wood for white meat fowl.
Could just be me. I like a subtle smoke flavor. With my grill, it's challenging to get a small amount of smoke without using Charcoal for a majority of heat. Mostly, I cook with 100% wood on the smoker grill, mostly, I use Sugar Maple. I've adapted techniques to over come the too much smoke issue with smaller chunks of meat, but with a Turkey, that's just too big for those techniques ...except that tactic that the skin is a sacrificial guard to keep too much smoke getting in the meat, which did work the one time I did that, but no crispy skin :(
 

smokeywolf

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Jon, I smoke fowl at a higher temp than most anything else; 270 to 290 works the best for me. Comes out a little less smokey and less time to lose moisture from soaking in the heat. Also, being that you're lucky enough to have an offset (stick-burner), because the firebox is on the smallish side, consider cutting your wood down from "splits" to larger "chunks". That will make cooking chamber temperature and fire management easier. Wood added will also catch more quickly, reducing smoke output.

In addition to the fruit woods, pecan wood is a great wood with a mild smoke for durn near everything.
 
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Snakeoil

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Smoking turkeys is how I got into smoking. Got talked into it by a friend for a 4th of July party. Used his smoker. Bought my own and did one every year after that for 10 years of parties. There was never any left. And yes, the skin is a total loss. More like rubber than anything else. But it pulls off with one or two tugs so makes the whole serving thing a snap.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Chicken or turkey skin, I don't even give it to my dogs. The only thing it's good for is to keep the fowl from drying out while cooking.
 

Snakeoil

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Chicken or turkey skin, I don't even give it to my dogs. The only thing it's good for is to keep the fowl from drying out while cooking.
Well on a bake or grilled chicken, I think that the skin is the best part. Turkey skin if it is golden brown and crispy is better than sex.
 

L Ross

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What do you guys know about a molcajete? A Mexican friend's parents gifted me one years ago. I finally dug it out and started grinding rice in it a few times until the rice stayed clean. Then some dried beans and rice. Man, my arm, wrist, and hand got a work out. I was reading about the prep and we have washed it and it is drying. The next step is to grind some fresh peppers, garlic, salt, and a little oil for the next seasoning, then heat it in an oven.
Any other tips and does anyone one on here use one?
 

Snakeoil

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What do you guys know about a molcajete?
It's just a mortar and pestle made from stone instead of fired clay. There is yet another version that is much larger called a metate. Instead of a pestle, it has a large, long football-ish shaped rolling pin and the mortar is more of a rectangular slab that is concave to match the convex curvature of the rolling pin. I was in Monterrey on business and a fellow engineer who was from Monterrey was with me. That night we went to visit his parents at their house. Javier brought out the metate and asked if I'd ever seen one before. I said no and asked what it was. He said, "It's a Mexican blender".
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