Unusual Machine Shop Tooling

smokeywolf

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Haven't run across my shop-made bump knurler yet, but knew where this one was.
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How about a turret tool for a conventional tailstock. Accurate to well within .005". Just push the tab down and spin the next tool into position. Great for center drill-drill-ream operations.
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Need to drill a square hole?
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Watts Brothers Square Hole Drill.
 

Snakeoil

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Love the square hole drill. Cannot imagine what something like that would cost new. It's amazing the solutions that were arrived at before the entry of NC machinery into the work of machine tools.
 

Snakeoil

Well-Known Member
I wonder if MGM misses that knurler? ;)
I bought a 1/4" drive torque wrench in a used tool store that had a calibration sticker on it from the USMC. My 52C has US Govt Property etched in the action the barrel is acid etched Totem Rifle Club, Anchorage, AK.

What I like are the tools that were made by machinists while working for some company. I have a tapping block, small precision square, right angle plate and a toolmaker's vise that all have names engraved into them. Their memories go on in my little shop and will carry on when I'm gone.
 

smokeywolf

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Doc, I closed the studio machine shop on March 1 of 2002. I was the last man out. Studio brass came to me and asked that I liquidate all assets in the 6,000 sq. ft. shop. As I already had a new job at Universal Studios, our deal was, I would work part time clearing out the shop and in return I would receive no salary, but would take 1 mill and 1 lathe of my choice and "all the tooling I could carry".
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I've got turret tools for the tail stock on the little 6" Atlas. It's more rigid than the cross slide!
 
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JustJim

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When I was in high school, one of the members of our muzzleloading club offered me the use of a bench in his shop, and help stocking my first rifle. One day I noticed some weird jig, looked the the unholy offspring of a 4-jaw lathe chuck and a milling fixture. Turned out it was an unfinished project of the shopowner's father, a fixture for making breech bolts for a Ferguson rifle.
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
I've almost bought a tailstock turret head several times but never did. I can see how useful they could be.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
When I was in high school, one of the members of our muzzleloading club offered me the use of a bench in his shop, and help stocking my first rifle. One day I noticed some weird jig, looked the the unholy offspring of a 4-jaw lathe chuck and a milling fixture. Turned out it was an unfinished project of the shopowner's father, a fixture for making breech bolts for a Ferguson rifle.
I must have read Louis Lamours "The Ferguson Rifle" 20 times as a kid. I was always fascinated by them. I had seen pics in books and that just made the longing worse. Sometime back, someone recreated a Ferguson per the specs on surviving examples. It worked, but the gas escaping the breech screw was horrible, and there was a lot of it. It was also reported the screw fouled badly. I don't know whatever became of the project but I still like the idea. Maybe it just needs some "tweaking"!!!
 

JustJim

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There have been several attempts to bring out a reproduction of the Ferguson, including a couple of bastardized "improved" versions. The first problem of course is the cost of the machining (but as far as I know, no one has tried the CNC route).

The second problem. . . picture the stock of your Kibler, with the barrel/lock/triggers and guard removed. Now picture even more wood removed under the triggerguard, and a great honkin' HOLE through the gun, top to bottom. Relatively speaking, there is little wood in the breech area, and they break there.

The third problem is that they are breechloaders, not eligible to shoot in most ML matches, which lessens demand. There's nothing like NSSA for the Revolutionary War. (The situation on this might be different in the UK, not sure.)

Of the repros, the best (and the worst) I've seen were done as one-offs by talented machinists who enjoyed the challenge. The late Naragansett Arms Co did one that has a good reputation. I've had the opportunity to shoot several of the repro versions (I REALLY wanted one when I was a kid!). The gas escaping the breech isn't too bad (not as bad as some of the Hall's, for example), and if you spit on the breech threads when you drop the block after every shot, you can shoot them all day.
 

Missionary

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Hall's do get your attention ! We call our Model 1819 Flintlock "Vesuvias".
The 1832 Caplock has a good snug breech and downward venting is little.
Both are .54 and will shoot cloverleafs at 50 yards.
 

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KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
What I read in wikipedia said the breech screw was a tapered thread. If it were cut rght that would certainly reduce gas leakage.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Rebellions and civil wars are always messy. Civilian passions run high and bad things are done on both side. "War! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing. "
 

Charles Graff

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Ah yes the Loyalists. My about 8th Great Grandfather was a gun maker in North Carolina during the Rev War and was the armorer for General Sumner. He got to fix all their broken guns. His shop was burned down by Loyalists in 1881. He never received a dime for all his work, but after the war was over, got a butt load of land in Georga for his services. He did well, until a tree fell on him some years later killing him grave yard dead. His name was Moses Mathews. We don't hold much with Loyalists in our family. Not to fond of Yankees either, but most are tolerated.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I don't hold with the loyalist position either. Had several members of my family fight in the Revolution. As for "Yankees", based on the Texans I've known and interacted extremely well with in the Corps and in LE, you guys seem to confuse urban NYC types with actual Yankee types. Think small farmer, logger, mill workers, etc. Whole different breed of cat. I've been told that many, many times by Texan USBP guys up here. They were very pleasantly surprised to find the locals were nothing like what they'd expected.