shootnlead
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Which wadcutter mould would you prefer, the H&G 50 6cav or the Lyman 358-91 4cav?
Any idea of value of each...in good condition?
Thanks
Any idea of value of each...in good condition?
Thanks
Wadcutter mold
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Either would work just fine.
Not many shooters have the ability to distinguish 10 rds with one and 10 rds with the other down range on target , as to differences in accuracy potential.
The 35891 will most likely be bought cheaper. Possibly by as much as 30 - 50% cheaper than the H & G # 50.
Not many shooters have the ability to distinguish 10 rds with one and 10 rds with the other down range on target , as to differences in accuracy potential.
The 35891 will most likely be bought cheaper. Possibly by as much as 30 - 50% cheaper than the H & G # 50.
A friend of mine many years ago took 4 different revolvers that were know to be very accurate at 50 yards. He took a Ransom rest and tested 1,000's of rounds of reloaded 38 Specials in the 4 different revolvers to determine which 38 / 357 wadcutter was the most accurate.
He found the Lyman 35863 ( my own mould that you see below ) to be the winner in the accuracy dept.
One lube ring only filled produced the tightest groups at 50 yards.
The mold cast real well :
He found the Lyman 35863 ( my own mould that you see below ) to be the winner in the accuracy dept.
One lube ring only filled produced the tightest groups at 50 yards.
The mold cast real well :
shootnlead
Active Member
Problem is, Ben...I have been offered only the 2 listed.
I guess, I am seeking the lesser of the evils...between these 2...and, honestly, I don't really need either as a Lee 2 hole would serve my purpose as I am only going to cast a couple of hundred per year as I really like .44 wadcutters...but I really don't much care for .38 wadcutters.
I guess, I am seeking the lesser of the evils...between these 2...and, honestly, I don't really need either as a Lee 2 hole would serve my purpose as I am only going to cast a couple of hundred per year as I really like .44 wadcutters...but I really don't much care for .38 wadcutters.
Many different moulds could possibly meet your requirements ? ?
If I only needed 200 or so wadcutters per yr., I'm not certain that I'd invest major bucks into molds similar to the ones you've described.
But , that is me, someone else may see it different.
Ben
If I only needed 200 or so wadcutters per yr., I'm not certain that I'd invest major bucks into molds similar to the ones you've described.
But , that is me, someone else may see it different.
Ben
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A 4 cav 358091 Lyman mould can usually be had for about $50.00 less handles. Add about $25.00 if handles are included. You can often find 4 cavity Lyman wadcutter moulds with handles, on the auction sites starting around $60.00, but there will be about $15.00 involved in the shipping charges.
A 6 cavity H&G 50 often sells around the $150.00 mark with handles. All of that value is wrapped up in it being a 6 cavity H&G as opposed to the more common 4 cavity. For a while there I was buying 4 cavity H&G 50s for around $75.00, and usually sold them for $100.00. I used to flip moulds a lot. H&G moulds must come with their handles, the handles varied from year to year and there's no guarantee you'll be able to find a set of handles that will fit the mould with any ease. No handles equal "no sale", as far as I'm concerned. The value of H&G moulds without the correct handles plummets like a stone. An H&G mould with a modified set of LEE handles on it for example is pretty meaningless.
If the H&G mould is complete, and in really good shape, would be a far better thing to own and use.
A 6 cavity H&G 50 often sells around the $150.00 mark with handles. All of that value is wrapped up in it being a 6 cavity H&G as opposed to the more common 4 cavity. For a while there I was buying 4 cavity H&G 50s for around $75.00, and usually sold them for $100.00. I used to flip moulds a lot. H&G moulds must come with their handles, the handles varied from year to year and there's no guarantee you'll be able to find a set of handles that will fit the mould with any ease. No handles equal "no sale", as far as I'm concerned. The value of H&G moulds without the correct handles plummets like a stone. An H&G mould with a modified set of LEE handles on it for example is pretty meaningless.
If the H&G mould is complete, and in really good shape, would be a far better thing to own and use.
oscarflytyer
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shootnlead - have a wadcutter mold I am not going to use. see below. shoot me a pm
Lyman 358091CX WC 150 2 cav no handles
Lyman 358091CX WC 150 2 cav no handles
shootnlead
Active Member
Thank you...makes my job easier and pm coming.
shootnlead
Active Member
Thanks...for the price info.
They both have handles and I would have never bought the h&g without the correct handles being on the mold...I just was not sure of the value of it.
JonB
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I was thinking I had a RCBS WC mold laying around, that I didn't need anymore? Because of this thread, I go look for it, I can't find it, I must have sold it?
Anyway,
While I was looking around, I find a minty Ideal 358432 4 cav WC mold. I don't know where this came from, I have no recollection of even buying this? I have kept real good notes of all the molds I've owned (and sold) in one paper notebook, and every casting session since I started casting in 2010, in another paper notebook. I couldn't find 358432 or Ideal WC or anything in either notebook. I bought a bunch of stuff from a local fellow back when I started casting, I posted about it, and I even searched that thread, to see if there was a mention of a Ideal 358432, as I did get a bunch of 4 cavity molds from that guy.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...deal-on-a-lot-of-casting-equipment&highlight=
But Nope, no mention of that mold?
I'm thinking I've never cast with this 358432 mold before.
I guess I know which mold I'll be casting with next.
Thanks shootnlead, for posting about this, it's kind of like getting a new mold for me.
Jon
Anyway,
While I was looking around, I find a minty Ideal 358432 4 cav WC mold. I don't know where this came from, I have no recollection of even buying this? I have kept real good notes of all the molds I've owned (and sold) in one paper notebook, and every casting session since I started casting in 2010, in another paper notebook. I couldn't find 358432 or Ideal WC or anything in either notebook. I bought a bunch of stuff from a local fellow back when I started casting, I posted about it, and I even searched that thread, to see if there was a mention of a Ideal 358432, as I did get a bunch of 4 cavity molds from that guy.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...deal-on-a-lot-of-casting-equipment&highlight=
But Nope, no mention of that mold?
I'm thinking I've never cast with this 358432 mold before.
I guess I know which mold I'll be casting with next.
Thanks shootnlead, for posting about this, it's kind of like getting a new mold for me.
Jon
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I started my casting career with 3 double-cavity tools......a Lyman #358430 (195 RN)--an Ideal #358432 (160 WC)--and the WC's 32 caliber version #313492. These latter 2 WCs have a button-nose that could pass muster as a "bore-rider", but that might be over-stating the case a bit. Both of these wadcutters have shot VERY well for me over the years, and have accounted for a large number of evil rats and collaborating jackrabbits. I haven't loaded either bullet much past 900 FPS, even in magnum brass. I suspect they would be fine to 1200 FPS+ if fit well to the gun launching them. At 800-900 FPS, I would have no qualms about collecting coyotes with the #313432.