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Rally Hess

Well-Known Member
She's making ice for sure here. There have been five deaths so far this year from people going through the ice. Every year people try to get out too early to fish, with atv's or snowmobiles. This stretch of about two weeks below -4, will make good ice and save some lives. Walleyes are starting to bight at Red and Lake of the Woods lakes. It's time to chase pretty beaver!!
 

Kevin Stenberg

Well-Known Member
Well I have something to cheer about. Today was the second day since 11- 20- 17 that the high for the day was above 0. Nights are still getting down to -30's.
 

358156 hp

At large, whereabouts unknown.
Were expecting three days of increasing temps, up to the low 50s by Wed. Then, back into the icebox.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Geez, Kevin, we had 72 hours that never got over 32 the weekend of New Years (first time in a lot of years that had happened) and we all thought it was the apocalypse. Month and a half below zero? Count me OUT.
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
Ian, we had sub zero for about that same length of time. We have been below freezing for 2+ weeks. Looking forward to a little thaw tomorrow.
 

Rally Hess

Well-Known Member
It's getting pretty old already. It was -40 wind chill here this morning. Trees popping last night when I filled the wood stove. We are suppose to get a break by Tuesday, with highs around 17. That should feel down right balmy.
 

Kevin Stenberg

Well-Known Member
We went from 1 extreme to the other. That 3 weeks of -0 weather. Directly to + 10 and 30. It literally went from 0 or1 deg. to a + 10 in one day, and the next day +30, the fourth day went back into the single digits. And from there we are in the -30 at night and single digits + or - since
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
it's been pretty nice lately.
it warmed up right at the end of the last snowstorm then cooled back down after It passed.
I think we have been bouncing back and forth between 0 and about 20 maybe 22 on the good days.
 

Ian

Notorious member
We've been between 25/night 50-65 daytime for a week now, nice and sunny and 56 right now with 46% humidity. :)
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
After six decades of observing, plowing, shoveling, and flying around and through the
weather I have learned that .......the weather varies, a lot.

Much beyond that and you will get into trouble pretty quickly.

Back in cold weather. As we drove home it was 63 in St. Louis, 58 about 40 miles west of that,
then dropped to 38 in about 10 minutes driving, hit 14 as we got to KC area.

Definitely winter.

Bill
 

USSR

Finger Lakes Region of NY
The soviet apts had good steam heat...

Bill,

I traveled extensively for 10 years in Ukraine, so let me tell you how things work over there. There are no boilers (for heat or hot water) in any of the apartment buildings. The steam for heating apartments and the hot water for the taps comes from a huge heating facility in each city and is piped throughout the city. From April to October, the city's heating facility shuts down for repairs, so no heat is available. The hot water for the tap is only available during some of the hours each day in some of the cities, so plan your bath or shower accordingly. And, you can't drink the water as it comes out of the tap, you've got to boil it or drink bottled water as most everybody does. In the apartments that are let out to foreigners like me, they install on-demand hot water boilers so we don't have to clean up without hot water. Hard to believe they would pipe heat thru an entire city, but they do.

Don
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
Yes, good description of the use of district heat in the soviet cities. Your accurate description will surprise
a lot of Americans., I'm sure. I have traveled through Russia and a number of former soviet states many
times over about a decade, and became quite familiar with the "advantages" of their system. In one apartment
I was visiting in January in St. Petersburg, a living room window was open about a foot to keep the room from
being so hot (about 15F outside), since they had no control over the heating into the apartment. I was amazed at the huge waste
of energy, but this is very common. We stayed in hotels, so rarely had no hot water, but I was aware of the
spotty nature of it for most, although many that I worked with had installed their own flash-heat electric
units to provide on-demand hot water when the district supply was down.

Central planners plan central everything, including heat. And NO AC. I have had to complain and then
get quite insistent that my bill be adjusted when no hot water was available in my hotel room in Krasnoyarsk
(Siberia) one visit. The clerk attempted to ignore my complaint, but I was able to convince her that I was going
to cause her a lot more trouble if she didn't change my bill. They are very surprised at people expecting proper
service, and willing to complain at bad service. Those crazy Americans.

I noticed you are an NRA Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor, me, too. My class had a bunch of folks
from Hodgdon and Sierra and Hornady in it. THAT was fun.

Bill
 
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RBHarter

West Central AR
I lived in a small community that was all central steam heat .
They heated about 660,000 square feet with 10ft ceilings and 5-6 miles of pipes plus internal building plumbing .
They were diesel fired boilers that cost $1700 to start cold bring up but only $400 a day once up and hot . Very efficient actually when applied to 300, 000 of so ft being uninsulated work shops akin to a garage to park 2-3 rail road locomotives .
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
All the older US military bases were district steam heat. I remember seeing the huge, above
ground pipes running everywhere, with aluminum foil covering on the insulation, and going up 15
feet or more over the roads, with periodic expansion zig-zags in the piping, too.

No idea where this was taken, just grabbed it off the net, but this is what I remember
as a kid living on navy bases.

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Bill
 
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John

Active Member
Several older towns had district heating in Montana but were gone by the early 1920's. Some of the steam tunnels are still stable as we ran pipe through them. Many Universities and Military bases and Hospitals still use a District heating plant.
 

Rick

Moderator
Staff member
Many of the sky scrappers in NYC use steam piped in from a central boiler too.
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
I would take the heat right now.
Forecast for 5 below overnight but with windchill approaching 30 below. Today was not a good day to be outside for long. I damn near froze my knickers off.