30 WCF

RBHarter

RBHarter

West Central AR
Well there it is .
For some misguided reason I just have no 30 cal molds . Well none suited to hogs and white tail .
I have a Stevens 325C 30 WCF with a 1-12 twist and 20" bbl . I'm thinking a 150-170 gr a moderate FP or RNFP but I'm at a loss .
I know I want something like the 311359 (30-115 SP) for the grands ,but I need to get to the velocity/weight/ alloy trade off point via the short road . I need to take this 1 to SE Tx in May for a hog hunt . The bigger guns all dialed up for 300 yd are just too much and the little 45 Colts carb had me pass a couple of shots last yr .
 
Josh

Josh

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I have a 311440, look it up, great hammer for deer size animals. It also specs in at 150 gr.
 
Rick

Rick

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Wow, I think there are more 30 cal molds than any other caliber & choices are unlimited. For my experiences in 308 & 30-30 I've had good luck with RCBS 150 grain FP and !80 grain with both SP and FP. For pork loin & bacon the 180 FP should do a fine job. All of my RCBS molds cast great and these are no exception. IMHO RCBS is the finest off the shelf mold you can buy, just can't go wrong.
 
9

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For 30/30 WCF, it is difficult to go wrong with Lyman #311041 or any other good-quality mould design that emulates it. The bullet has a nice flat point, and I have some recent work on a critter with it to illustrate its effectiveness.

I ran a 311041 through my Win 94 at a coyote stepped off at 115 yards. Cast as a BruceB softpoint and started at 1800 FPS, it traversed from back of left ribcage with 1/2" entry then out the right shoulder with a stellate 1-1/2" exit. BANG/flop. Soft nose donor slug was an RCBS 22-55-SP/pure lead, shank portion was 92/6/2, Hornady gas check and sized @ .310".
 
Brad

Brad

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I like the NOE version of the 165 Ranch Dog in my Marlin. I prefer the traditional lube groove one over the TL grooves. It shoots very well in my rifle.
A 30-30 is very easy to load for. Like Rick said lots of mould options. Long as it fits it will shoot
 
Ian

Ian

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RD bullets won't fit a lot of rifles that are not Marlins. 30-30s seem to have throats all over the map, from no throat at all to no step at the end of the chamber. Universally I find the 311041 to be THE .30-30 bullet. Fortunately, I have a Lee group buy copy that casts .311 x.301 with a .305 band between the nose and the band in front of the crimp groove, and Hornady gas checks fit perfectly. I suspect Lyman moulds of today would cast about .307" out of WW. The last two .30-caliber Lyman moulds I bought sure did.

Check with Accurate Molds, there are a ton of good .30-30 bullets there already designed and ready to go, or you can draw your own. Stick with a .180-.190 meplat for hunting, even in a rifle without a tubular magazine.
 
JWFilips

JWFilips

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Brad said:
I like the NOE version of the 165 Ranch Dog in my Marlin. I prefer the traditional lube groove one over the TL grooves. It shoots very well in my rifle.
A 30-30 is very easy to load for. Like Rick said lots of mould options. Long as it fits it will shoot
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I also Have the NOE 165 RD in Traditional Lube Groves Shoots very well for me in my 1970's era Marlin 336
 
Brad

Brad

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Ian, I wasn't aware that anyone but Marlin made 30-30's?:rolleyes:

I have never fired a 311041 but haven't heard anything but good stuff about them. Well, if they cast large enough.
 
Ben

Ben

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The 31141 is great in the 30-30, but I also use it a lot in 30-06 and 308 Win.

This group below was shot with my CVA Scout , 30-06.
I shot this group at 50 yards , 5 shots, 17.0 grs. of 2400 with the 31141 HP , sized to .310".

 
RBHarter

RBHarter

West Central AR
The NOE looks a lot like the 311041 which probably looks a lot like the 30 cal RCBS sister of the 27-130 FP I have .

That 311440 ........ I'd hate to have to stretch it to 150 yd. Definitely looks like a truck waiting for a deer in the headlights .
 
Josh

Josh

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The 311440 isn't bad out to 150, it likes to go fast, get it up to 2k fps and it reaches 150 pretty easy.
 
RBHarter

RBHarter

West Central AR
I have a cousin cartridge, 32 Remington, it thrives on a case full of 4350 under a 323-170 so I have high hopes for the 30-30 to be as cooperative.
 
Ben

Ben

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Josh said:
The 311440 isn't bad out to 150, it likes to go fast, get it up to 2k fps and it reaches 150 pretty easy.
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Here is my NOE.
1 cavity is a plain base, the other is g/c'd.
You're right it is a HAMMER ! !
 
Glen

Glen

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The .30-30 is very well served by cast bullets. Here are a few of my favorites: (l-r: RCBS 150, Lyman 311041, Lyman 311041 HP, RCBS 180, NOE 187 HP)
30-30 and cast bullets.jpg
 
fiver

fiver

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I will second or third or fourth the rcbs boolits.
I have and use the 150gr rnfp mold in all of my 30-30's [couple of bolt guns and some 3-4 model 94's]
the 30-06's I have seem to prefer it to anything else off the shelf too. [my 03-A3 likes the 311041 but it's the only one of my 30 cal rifles that does]
the crimp groove is in the right place and the nose engraves the rifling [it's what I call a no-drama bullet]
it casts easily, takes a check and sizes to 310 like a champ, it feeds without a hitch through the lever guns, and best of all it shoots well from @ 1800 fps [34grs of 4831] up through as fast as the round will go. [27+grs of AA-2230]
I use it to whomp ground squirrels out to 100 yds in the wifes savage 110 on top of 18 grs of 2400.
I wouldn't hesitate to use any of those loads on a deer out to 100 to 150 yds, a pig or whatever would not make me think twice either.
 
KHornet

KHornet

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I have the 31141 and the 312440 also. Both shoot very respectable out of 30-30, 308, and 06. If I beagled them, feel reasonably sure they would shoot well out of Mosins and 303 enfields as well.
 
KHornet

KHornet

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A mean looking bullet, sort of like a bull dog. Guess that is why I bought the mold. Shoots very well within limitations.
 
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