327 ramblings

[CZ93X62]

I looked at a 31 caliber bullet .700" long through vCalc's Greenhill formula equation--at 800 and 1200 FPS @ 10.9 sG (alloyed/jacketed lead) a 1-21" twist should stabilize the bullet. Most Ruger revolvers have 1-20" rifling. FWIW. Sometimes, some guns just don't like some bullets.

I have never explored past 120 grains in any of my 30-32 caliber handguns.

 

[Mainiac]

I looked at a 31 caliber bullet .700" long through vCalc's Greenhill formula equation--at 800 and 1200 FPS @ 10.9 sG (alloyed/jacketed lead) a 1-21" twist should stabilize the bullet. Most Ruger revolvers have 1-20" rifling. FWIW. Sometimes, some guns just don't like some bullets.

I have never explored past 120 grains in any of my 30-32 caliber handguns.

They shoot nice round holes in the singlesix, but still shoot horrible. I havent shot the hr for a long while,,its petload,,rcbs98swc,10.0-4227,,will still shoot ragged hole groups,id forgotton

 

[CWLONGSHOT]

Not to slight anyone... But has this gun shot well for anyone else?
I have forever been the deliver of reality. Meaning when ever a customer complained a gun was inaccurate, I got called to go shoot the gun with customer. Never once in over ten years did I find a bad shooting gun. Just folks who didnt shoot as well as they once remembered they might have...

CW

 

[RicinYakima]

Well, I have owned two Ruger 32 H&R single sixes and an SP101 in in 327 Federal in the last 25 years. While I wanted to love them, none shot well enough for me to keep them. Same with the Dan Wesson 32 H&R/ 32/20 double action, it went down the road after just six months and one new barrel and not keeping in 6 inches at 25 yards. Not bad mouthing all of them, but I just don't have good luck with Rugers or Dan Wessons.

 

[Bret4207]

I looked at a 31 caliber bullet .700" long through vCalc's Greenhill formula equation--at 800 and 1200 FPS @ 10.9 sG (alloyed/jacketed lead) a 1-21" twist should stabilize the bullet. Most Ruger revolvers have 1-20" rifling. FWIW. Sometimes, some guns just don't like some bullets.

I have never explored past 120 grains in any of my 30-32 caliber handguns.

I have a 311440 copy that I picture being used in the 32-20 and creating something akin to the old 38 Special Super Police load. Haven't got to it yet, but maybe someday.

 

[CZ93X62]

#311440 has eluded me to date. Even in the 327, that bullet would take up some powder space in order to fit in the cylinder. It might be fun to try, though.

#358430 (195 grain RN) in 38 Special/standard pressure gets about 675-700 FPS in a 4" revolver. The Brits fought WWII with a similar load in 38 S&W, 650-675 FPS. None of these would be a real Magnum, but I won't stand downrange and field them with a baseball glove either.

 

[CWLONGSHOT]

I HAVE LOADED & SHOT the 311440!!!

Blue Dot to 1050 fps in 5.5" S7. Shoots VERY WELL!!!

CW

 

[CWLONGSHOT]

I found the video, Here is my "snake" load I mentioned.
Im looking for the 311440 video...

 

[CWLONGSHOT]

Found it!

CW

 

[CZ93X62]

Not to slight anyone... But has this gun shot well for anyone else?
I have forever been the deliver of reality. Meaning when ever a customer complained a gun was inaccurate, I got called to go shoot the gun with customer. Never once in over ten years did I find a bad shooting gun. Just folks who didnt shoot as well as they once remembered they might have...

CW

You'll need to speak to my lawyer about such anomalies. Call his firm for an appointment--Dewey, Cheatham, & Howe.

 

[Mainiac]

Not to slight anyone... But has this gun shot well for anyone else?
I have forever been the deliver of reality. Meaning when ever a customer complained a gun was inaccurate, I got called to go shoot the gun with customer. Never once in over ten years did I find a bad shooting gun. Just folks who didnt shoot as well as they once remembered they might have...

CW

Do you mean my situation??
If so,,i can assure you that both my singlesix and gp100,both shoot exceptional small groups, with boolits it likes.
I dont keep any guns around that wont shoot really tight.

 

[Mainiac]

Another intresting factoid......
Ive found years ago,that 3.0 231,and 10.5 of 4227,,is 2 of the best loads for my 32hr ruger.
Add 2 grs to them loads,and put it in the 327,,and it is super accurate in the gp100...
Longer case,higher pressure,but the nodes on them powders still work...

 

[RBHarter]

All of this talk about 32s has the mud stirring again .
I have wanted a reloadable direct replacement for 22 LR . I tried several things available , the 37 gr bullet in 222 and 223 backed down to undroppable charges of Unique or Red Dot were well over the target speeds and at 62 gr were close but all over ...... I really wanted something easy like a 25 ACP really they're just so close that really you should be able to use a WM or WRF base move the firing pin and barrel dia and your good to go . Yeah and if you happen across a bucket of iridium and hens teeth you can make it happen .

Seems like there are lots of 32 pistol choices and a fair number of rifle choices . . .308 dia barrels are laying everywhere , I have 3-4 . Seems like the idea of buy a mag load it like an ACP might be the answer I've been avoiding .

How practical is a 32 ACP/short/long/H&R/327 mag rifle ?
A 32 ACP is about 2x the bullet weight . 2 gr of whatever and 1100 fps in a 16" if any sort of other cartridge guidance holds true and I have a little junky H&R pistol to tinker with in a 32 short ......

I'd prefer a bolt repeater but I guess a single break is a lot easier to make happy .

 

[Wiresguy]

Ed Harris built up a "Bunny" rifle chambered in .32 Long. Based on an old Stevens .410 single shot, as I recall. It sounded like a fun and practical rifle. A search would bring up more details.

 

[Bret4207]

I think they're very practical as a 22RF replacement. I have a Rem #4 converted from 32RF to 32 S+W Long. You can get 1k fps with the long and a 100gr bullet out of a rifle, but it's not needed. I also have a much weaker #6 Rem that will be a 32 S+W if I ever remember to rent the reamer. The 32 S+W out of the #4, factory stuff was pushing about 850 IIRC. I think that was an 86 gr load. The barrel length turns it into a great little small game gun. More drop than a 22, much less a 22 Mag, but no where near the cost or noise. They just go "Toomp" until you break the sound barrier.

 

[CWLONGSHOT]

100% RBHarper!!

I shoot 32 acp from Mine regularly. (I have a good quantity and no 32 acp any more.

:2 longs and 327 Mags are my favorites. Both shoot very very well. I have lightened the 327 till accuracy fell off but the 32 Long is better. Probably could say same of the H&R but I only have a small quantity of them. Goodly supply of 32 acp, 32 longs and 327's. Small quantity of 32 shorts and 32 h&r.

I have a 32/20 H&R single shot. I like it allot but its not nearly as handy as a 327 would be.

CW

 

[CZ93X62]

They aren't cheap, but Henry makes Big Boy series leverguns in 327 Federal.

 

[RBHarter]

I have more than one 308 barrel , 06's actually , and Dad left a Handy with a nice 30-30 barrel and a 20 ga barrel that's ok on the inside but bad outside . So a stub of some sort has been rattling around for some time . This might be the answer to $10/50 22LR .

Some how a 6-7# rifle for a 32 ACP seems extreme .

 

[Bret4207]

They aren't cheap, but Henry makes Big Boy series leverguns in 327 Federal.

Someone needs to make a nice, LIGHT, Win 92 or Marlin 94 in 327. Or that little Remington pump, Marlin made one too I think, that came in 32-20. One of the biggest things that keeps me from joining the Church of Henry is the sheer weight. For that matter an affordable SS would work for me too.

 

[RBHarter]

Someone needs to make a nice, LIGHT, Win 92 or Marlin 94 in 327. Or that little Remington pump, Marlin made one too I think, that came in 32-20. One of the biggest things that keeps me from joining the Church of Henry is the sheer weight. For that matter an affordable SS would work for me too.

This idea right here was the MO for the 25 ACP . It has the same rim dia as the 22 mag and the same case length as 22 LR and the .015 case dia just can't be that big a deal to overcome . Its in the same pressure range as the 22 LR and in spite of the doubled bullet weight it just can't have that much more bolt thrust .

Yes at one point I did all of those calculations and found that 12 ga was far more thrusty than even the 65kpsi 460 .......