45-70 Blow up
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Canuck Bob
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When I started to return to handloading I decided I'd use only loads that are over 50% capacity of the empty case (I don't shoot handguns). I stocked up on 4895, 4198, 4759, and Trail Boss. Lately I've been rethinking this and like the economy of Unique loads. I did some research and with this report included I'm sticking to my original plan. This is not a critique of folks who load small charges of fast powder, that is none of my business. There are many here that I respect and listen to who do so safely and sensibly for many years.
smokeywolf
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The last thing I do with completed cartridges is weigh them. if there is a double charge or even an excessive charge due to bridging, it's a pretty fair chance I'm going to find it.
KHornet
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Sometime back, probably 4-5 years ago, I loaded some max loads for
my #1 45-70, with 28 gr of 2400 under 420gr. OHAS PB's. Don't know
why I did that, because, I seldom load max on anything. However, in
my recent quest to accumulate reloadable brass, I shot off 20 of those
loads from the bench. They shot ok, 5 average at 50 yds in under 2",
but boy did they pack a wallop on the rear end. The last 5 I shot offhand
and that was appreciably easier on the body.
I didn't have the box
annotated as having dac fill, but in all probability I did, as I used to use
dac fill on all my 45-70 cast loads. Any how, going back to the starting
thread, I think a 40 gr. load would take apart even a #1.
And Ben, could not agree more on the data put out there by those
keyboard cowboys. Time spent double/triple checking published data
is time well spent.
Paul
my #1 45-70, with 28 gr of 2400 under 420gr. OHAS PB's. Don't know
why I did that, because, I seldom load max on anything. However, in
my recent quest to accumulate reloadable brass, I shot off 20 of those
loads from the bench. They shot ok, 5 average at 50 yds in under 2",
but boy did they pack a wallop on the rear end. The last 5 I shot offhand
and that was appreciably easier on the body.
I didn't have the box
annotated as having dac fill, but in all probability I did, as I used to use
dac fill on all my 45-70 cast loads. Any how, going back to the starting
thread, I think a 40 gr. load would take apart even a #1.
And Ben, could not agree more on the data put out there by those
keyboard cowboys. Time spent double/triple checking published data
is time well spent.
Paul
Missionary
Well-Known Member
Good morning
Some years ago I decided to pretty much stop shooting large heavy cast off a bench. Cross sticks are as near as accurate once you get the wiggles worked out. Handling recoil sitting upright no matter what the beast you touch off, is far more easy to absorb. Even the 50 Alaskan with 525 grainers at 1850 fps using a big batch of 4198 does not crush any bones.
Some years ago I decided to pretty much stop shooting large heavy cast off a bench. Cross sticks are as near as accurate once you get the wiggles worked out. Handling recoil sitting upright no matter what the beast you touch off, is far more easy to absorb. Even the 50 Alaskan with 525 grainers at 1850 fps using a big batch of 4198 does not crush any bones.
KHornet
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Missionary, When I was shooting a lot of Black Powder, I used to use cross sticks a lot, and I agree that recoil wise they are much better than bench shooting with heavy loads. However, as I am rapidly pushing closer to the 80 mark, getting down to use cross sticks, and then trying to get back up is a real chore. Good to hear from you!
Paul
Paul