Glaciers
Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
Well in I’d say there’s nothing wrong with a Swede
anyone like 30-06?
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Yes, but...
I once owned a WRAC M70 Featherweight in '06 and a Ruger M77 Ultra-Light in 308 at the same time.
The Ruger beat the snot out of me, shooting 150 grain bullets and the Winchester was almost comfortable to shoot with 180s. The Winchester only weighed a quarter pound more than the Ruger. There was something about the stock on the M70 that was simply "right."
Since the seventies, I've had bad discs in my neck which made/makes shooting anything more potent than the 6.5x55 painful enough the day I shoot, but, boy I pay for it for several weeks after - with a STIFF interest penalty.
Never was much of a push-feed guy, but that post-64 Winchester is one fine rifle, and not unpleasant to shoot, right up to the '06. Winchester advertised those as weight six and a quarter pounds, and I believe Ruger said theirs was six, even.
L Ross
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Light rifles, heavy for caliber bullets, and maximally loaded ammo. That's a description of my 7x57 when I used it for elk, moose, and feral angus bulls. The 7 was built as my ideal out West hunting rifle and in the end weighed 6lb. 10 oz. scoped with a 1.5x5 Vari-X III, a nylon sling and four rounds in the blind magazine. The recoil pad on the Rimrock stock is very good, (sorbothane?), and the stock's dimensions feel right for me. "The load", developed for that rifle is the old Nosler 175 semi-spitzer with 48.0 grains of IMR-4350 in W-W brass for 2,640 fps. The rifle is absolutely not painful to shoot, yet two of my friends got the humps of their noses cut and bloodied with the scope trying it out. Both men shot heavier caliber and weight rifles and I don't think they believed me when I said the recoil of the 7 was "fast". The recoil impulse just seems instantaneous to me. It feels like a quick jab but without real substance behind it, no dwell. Why they got hit in the beak instead of their eye brow I'm not sure, rotation?
My Wisconsin deer hunting load is a much more sedate Speer Hot-Cor 130 grain bullet and enough 4895 to get it to about 2,500. Talk about pleasant.
My Wisconsin deer hunting load is a much more sedate Speer Hot-Cor 130 grain bullet and enough 4895 to get it to about 2,500. Talk about pleasant.
Glaciers
Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
It’s all about fit, stock, rifle weight, how you hold the rifle. The rudest rifle I think I’ve ever shot was a Ruger paddle stocked 308, might have been a 30-06. The Featherweights just fit for my style of shooting. Can’t tell you how or why, but the dimensions are right for me. I would be absolutely clueless if I was going to order a custom stock other then I like a long length of pull, and I’m only 5’9”. Never been wacked with a scope. But I’m pretty serious about keeping a firm grip on the rifle.
Winchester levers fit, Savage levers are on the plus side of ok, Marlins are just marginal. But the old Featherweight just fits right out of the box.
I’ve watched BIG guys shoot a particular rife/caliber and just complain almost with tears in there eyes from a rifle that I shoot all the time and think is fine. I believe the big guy takes more abuse from recoil as it takes a while to get all that mass moving with the recoil action. Lot being absorbed, while I’m flowing with it. I’m probably all wet here, but it’s fun to watch big guys shoot sometimes.
Case in point is Missionary. Not a big guy from what I understand, but shoots a lot of big calibers.
Winchester levers fit, Savage levers are on the plus side of ok, Marlins are just marginal. But the old Featherweight just fits right out of the box.
I’ve watched BIG guys shoot a particular rife/caliber and just complain almost with tears in there eyes from a rifle that I shoot all the time and think is fine. I believe the big guy takes more abuse from recoil as it takes a while to get all that mass moving with the recoil action. Lot being absorbed, while I’m flowing with it. I’m probably all wet here, but it’s fun to watch big guys shoot sometimes.
Case in point is Missionary. Not a big guy from what I understand, but shoots a lot of big calibers.
L Ross
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Probably something to that old British gun makers fitting the rifles and shotguns to their wealthy customers. Oh to be so lucky huh?
Missionary
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I do agree. When a rifle or shotgun comes along that "fits" and naturally points it gets marked "keeper".
Rockydoc
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I bought a Winchester M70 Featherweight 7x57 for my wife several years ago. She used it for only one hunt. She is really not into hunting and shooting like I thought she would be. I shot skeet every weekend when we were dating and she went with me and shot a borrowed REM 1200 and I thought she liked it. What they tell you when you are dating turns out to be different after you are married.
Back to the 7x57 Featherweight, my son, 3 of my grandsons and my granddaughter and I have all killed at least one deer with it.
Back to the 7x57 Featherweight, my son, 3 of my grandsons and my granddaughter and I have all killed at least one deer with it.
fiver
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i don't think they discontinued the 139 interlock.
the umm boat tail version maybe, but there'd be an outcry you could hear without a computer if they even attempted to drop the regular bullet.
yeah John.
those boat paddle Rugers in 308 can get obnoxious off the bench with factory type ammo.
i've shot thousands upon thousands of cast loads through mine [once going through 8lbs of 4895 in one month at 28-30grs a pop]
but a half dozen top notch loads is too many.
i've got a load worked for mine with 3031 and a 150 corelock copy that isn't too bad, but i bets it's only going like 2600-2650 tops.
my buddy had one in 300 win. that he let me [reluctantly] shoot.
he had a brake put on that was similar to the Boss system and it's recoil was actually some less then my 308.
the umm boat tail version maybe, but there'd be an outcry you could hear without a computer if they even attempted to drop the regular bullet.
yeah John.
those boat paddle Rugers in 308 can get obnoxious off the bench with factory type ammo.
i've shot thousands upon thousands of cast loads through mine [once going through 8lbs of 4895 in one month at 28-30grs a pop]
but a half dozen top notch loads is too many.
i've got a load worked for mine with 3031 and a 150 corelock copy that isn't too bad, but i bets it's only going like 2600-2650 tops.
my buddy had one in 300 win. that he let me [reluctantly] shoot.
he had a brake put on that was similar to the Boss system and it's recoil was actually some less then my 308.
Glaciers
Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
Yeah well there ugly to. Grains not very defined.
Those Boss breaks do work, had one on a Savage 338 and your right it was pretty tame.
They discontinued the 190 BTSP as well, i guess they discontinued quite a few of the interlock bullets then brought them back maybe with some updates?
First time they discontinued the 190’s I bought 10 boxes. Possibly over kill. All I know is the interlocks kill.
Fiver as you point out just keep them under 2800. I never needed bonded go fast bullets.
Those Boss breaks do work, had one on a Savage 338 and your right it was pretty tame.
They discontinued the 190 BTSP as well, i guess they discontinued quite a few of the interlock bullets then brought them back maybe with some updates?
First time they discontinued the 190’s I bought 10 boxes. Possibly over kill. All I know is the interlocks kill.
Fiver as you point out just keep them under 2800. I never needed bonded go fast bullets.
todd
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i have a couple of hundred left of the 139gr Hornady fn. it was a great bullet for deer in the 7x57 and the 7-08. my dad used a 115gr Speer hp in a 14" tc contender in 7-30 waters, altho he used a 139gr federal fn factory load. i believe that he still has 2 or 3 boxes (20 rounds per box) of them.
i about cried when they discontinued them.
i about cried when they discontinued them.
Missionary
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We shot a couple boxes of 139 Hornady's through our two TC 7mm TCU hand cannons. The 10" would make 4" groups at 200 meters with me laying on my back. The 14" barrel would cut that in half. For practice I head shot the turkeys.
I still have 30-20 vision in my right eye also.
I still have 30-20 vision in my right eye also.
todd
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i couldn't see the doe thru the aperture sight at 50 yards!!!!
all it did was make the doe blurry, so i passed on the shot. the next year, i had glasses and killed a 4pt at 53 yards with aperture sights.
Tomme boy
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Well I took the ammo to a local gun show today. Ended up getting $1200 for the 5 cans of it. The dealer couldn't get his $$ out fast enough. The old ladies mother will be happy when we bring the $ up to her.
Other than that what a joke at the show. I seen 2 boxes of primers. One 1K box of sp cci for $125 and one box of 1K win 209 for $110. And one 8lb jug of varget for a measly $650!!
Other than that what a joke at the show. I seen 2 boxes of primers. One 1K box of sp cci for $125 and one box of 1K win 209 for $110. And one 8lb jug of varget for a measly $650!!
RicinYakima
High Steppes of Eastern Washington
You did very well for the MIL.
Oh ouch. I thought you were going to find the value and get back with me. I have a Garand sittin here waiting for some of that.