Ben's Liquid Lube
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I can't afford to. I spent all my money on moulds. Then there's the PID. Oh, and I rebuilt my pot. And then there's the weekly pewter hunt at Goodwill...
Speaking of which, I'm late!
Speaking of which, I'm late!
KHornet
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Well, now that just about everybody has chimed in, guess I will add my two cents about Ben's LL. As far as I am concerned it is about the best thing to come along since sliced white bread and dry toilet paper. Use it for every thing now, and the bores of my weapons are mirror bright. What more can ya ask.
We cast bullets to save money, not make it.
The line about saving money cracks me up every time I use it!
358156hp
You may have misunderstood what I was saying.
I should have said, " I'm not trying to sell Ben's Liquid Lube ( or any other lube ) in a money making proposition."
Therefore, an endorsement from any person isn't critical to my financial welfare.
However, it is rewarding for me personally after working to develop the lube to see qualified and knowledgeable shooters endorse the lube.
Ben
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Brad,
I've shot BLL at 1,100 fps in moderate 357 mags. but that has been my " ceiling " at this point in time. It worked great in those speeds.
Some " say " they have shot it in 44 Mags and Casulls at 1,500 fps, with zero problems. Keep in mind that I wasn't standing there watching that, so I can't say about the validity of those claims ?
Maybe I was one of the " Oh Ye of little faith " types but In the early days ( 3 years ago ) of testing ( when I was the only person that was privy to the formula ), I envisioned the lube's primary role as being a good quick , easy to make and use lube, for tumble lube cast bullets with micro bands and to lube the nose on my " nose rider " cast bullets. Today, 3 years later, the liquid lube excels in that limited cast bullet shooting arena for me personally.
Seems that I may not have fully realized what I'd concocted in my " witches cauldron " ? ?
There are now 500 or so post over on the " other forum" on the BLL thread with cast bullet shooters that have taken BLL far beyond my initial goals for the lube. Many say it is the only lube that they use anymore for handgun AND rifle use.
I'm not quite ready to make comments like the above, I'm not ready to throw the baby out with the wash water just yet................ I'm holding onto my Ben's Red also. As you are aware, I quite often use my Ben's Red with BLL as an " over - coat ". The results of using the two together cannot be argued with !
Ben
I've shot BLL at 1,100 fps in moderate 357 mags. but that has been my " ceiling " at this point in time. It worked great in those speeds.
Some " say " they have shot it in 44 Mags and Casulls at 1,500 fps, with zero problems. Keep in mind that I wasn't standing there watching that, so I can't say about the validity of those claims ?
Maybe I was one of the " Oh Ye of little faith " types but In the early days ( 3 years ago ) of testing ( when I was the only person that was privy to the formula ), I envisioned the lube's primary role as being a good quick , easy to make and use lube, for tumble lube cast bullets with micro bands and to lube the nose on my " nose rider " cast bullets. Today, 3 years later, the liquid lube excels in that limited cast bullet shooting arena for me personally.
Seems that I may not have fully realized what I'd concocted in my " witches cauldron " ? ?
There are now 500 or so post over on the " other forum" on the BLL thread with cast bullet shooters that have taken BLL far beyond my initial goals for the lube. Many say it is the only lube that they use anymore for handgun AND rifle use.
I'm not quite ready to make comments like the above, I'm not ready to throw the baby out with the wash water just yet................ I'm holding onto my Ben's Red also. As you are aware, I quite often use my Ben's Red with BLL as an " over - coat ". The results of using the two together cannot be argued with !
Ben
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KHornet
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I am using it as an over coat on all of my cast bullets now. An extra step, but little time involved. Will get around to trying some Ben's Red one of these days, but BLL is working great over White Label 2500, and Can Red. Only have a couple of tumble lube molds, and they get just 2 coats of BLL, and work great.
KHornet,
I have several .44 cal. rifles and handguns.
I don't have the Lee Tumble lube 240 gr. .44 mold.
Using BLL, with the micro bands, it is of great interest to me.
I need a .431" - .432 " 44 cal. cast bullet for my guns.
Anyone know if the Lee will offer a bullet that size with ACWW's ?
Ben
I have several .44 cal. rifles and handguns.
I don't have the Lee Tumble lube 240 gr. .44 mold.
Using BLL, with the micro bands, it is of great interest to me.
I need a .431" - .432 " 44 cal. cast bullet for my guns.
Anyone know if the Lee will offer a bullet that size with ACWW's ?
Ben
35 shooter
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I've used BLL as an overcoat on top of Ben's Red in my 35 whelen. Of course it worked, but what surprised me was no shift in impact from just using straight Ben's Red. Group avg. remained the same also.
I expected it to hit higher or lower on target with the overcoat, but it did'nt and did a great job of locking the lube in the grooves.
Today i ran 25 rounds through my 45/410 derringer with a single coat of Bll on the bullets, which was a 298 gr. .494" Lee Minnie hollow base in 45 colt cases. I've been using a double coat of straight alox. The hollow base does a decent job of sealing the 410 portion of the bore, but i usually get a bit of leading on the rifling that does'nt really build up with the alox. It's the most accurate bullet i've found so far for the 45/410's.
I already had bit of lead in the rifling and didn't bother to clean it before using the BLL. My point of impact was the same as with straight alox and surprisingly at the end of 25 shots there was hardly any leading at all? The Liquid wax in BLL seemed to clean most of the little that was there out! There may not have been any at all if i had cleaned it first before shooting...which i will do next time.
That's pretty amazing performance in a gun that you know is giving a bit of blow by in the bbl. by virtue of it's design.
My mix of BLL has a very slight tacky but not sticky at all feel to it. This did not change during the shooting session inspite of the heat today in S. MS. They remained only slightly tacky.
Didn't mean to be long winded on this but if you only knew how long it's taken to get a bullet and lube to perform out of the 45/410 for me, you would understand my excitement! This bullet does not seem to tumble or yaw at all out of this gun and holes seemed round in the cardboard all the way from 10 yds. to the 100 yd. berm and delivers at least combat type accuracy of 2 and 3" @ 25 yds. most of the time.
Finally found the best bullet, lube and load for my 45/410....Thanks Ben, this lube really let it shine today.
I expected it to hit higher or lower on target with the overcoat, but it did'nt and did a great job of locking the lube in the grooves.
Today i ran 25 rounds through my 45/410 derringer with a single coat of Bll on the bullets, which was a 298 gr. .494" Lee Minnie hollow base in 45 colt cases. I've been using a double coat of straight alox. The hollow base does a decent job of sealing the 410 portion of the bore, but i usually get a bit of leading on the rifling that does'nt really build up with the alox. It's the most accurate bullet i've found so far for the 45/410's.
I already had bit of lead in the rifling and didn't bother to clean it before using the BLL. My point of impact was the same as with straight alox and surprisingly at the end of 25 shots there was hardly any leading at all? The Liquid wax in BLL seemed to clean most of the little that was there out! There may not have been any at all if i had cleaned it first before shooting...which i will do next time.
That's pretty amazing performance in a gun that you know is giving a bit of blow by in the bbl. by virtue of it's design.
My mix of BLL has a very slight tacky but not sticky at all feel to it. This did not change during the shooting session inspite of the heat today in S. MS. They remained only slightly tacky.
Didn't mean to be long winded on this but if you only knew how long it's taken to get a bullet and lube to perform out of the 45/410 for me, you would understand my excitement! This bullet does not seem to tumble or yaw at all out of this gun and holes seemed round in the cardboard all the way from 10 yds. to the 100 yd. berm and delivers at least combat type accuracy of 2 and 3" @ 25 yds. most of the time.
Finally found the best bullet, lube and load for my 45/410....Thanks Ben, this lube really let it shine today.
358156hp
Maybe I did misread your intent concerning money ? ?
I'm sorry if I did.
I just wanted to stress that all my efforts making and researching bullet lube don't hub around making money. That point that I wanted to stress was intended for everyone that reads this post .
Maybe I did misread your intent concerning money ? ?
I'm sorry if I did.
I just wanted to stress that all my efforts making and researching bullet lube don't hub around making money. That point that I wanted to stress was intended for everyone that reads this post .
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They didn't lead but they didn't shoot great either. I think they were over lubed and the bore got too wet.
Look at the thread on 200 yards with the revolver in the handgun section.
I would call this a good example of too much of a good thing.
Look at the thread on 200 yards with the revolver in the handgun section.
I would call this a good example of too much of a good thing.
35 shooter
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Put 3 coats of BLL only on some pb 280 gr and also some 360230 gr. gc bullets for the 35 whelen last night.
The pb's will be shot at 1275 fps. and the 230 gr. gc at 2200fps. with known loads that i usually use Ben's Red with.
This lube goes on slick and dries fast. I used thinner coats than i did with my derringer and it dried even faster and harder this time.
The thickness of the coating equals about 1 coat of straight alox. Hopefully will get to shoot them this weekend.
The pb's will be shot at 1275 fps. and the 230 gr. gc at 2200fps. with known loads that i usually use Ben's Red with.
This lube goes on slick and dries fast. I used thinner coats than i did with my derringer and it dried even faster and harder this time.
The thickness of the coating equals about 1 coat of straight alox. Hopefully will get to shoot them this weekend.