New NOE 360-310 FN "The 35 Thumper"
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Huh? Are you trying to say Ian is wrong on that? I dunno, sounds perfectly logical to me.
yodogsandman
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I started with IMR 4350 yesterday, too. Used all of the charges at 48.0 gr and 4 of the 49.0 gr loads to sight in the scope. It was hitting 9" high and 4 1/2" right after I found where the shots were. Here's the 50.0 gr load, note that I shot 5 rounds and then waited for the barrel to cool and shot 5 more. The bottom 2 shots were the first shots from each volley of 5 shots.
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Could be normal barrel harmonics are out of tune with the load. The case mouths are still sooting up indicating lower pressures which would be more prone to ignition inconsistencies.
This rifle and barrel shoots 5/8" groups consistently with 3 different j-word weights and styles. The 200 gr Hornady SP, 225 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip, 250 gr Speer SP and 250 gr Nosler Partitions. I tend to doubt the barrel is stressed.
This rifle and barrel shoots 5/8" groups consistently with 3 different j-word weights and styles. The 200 gr Hornady SP, 225 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip, 250 gr Speer SP and 250 gr Nosler Partitions. I tend to doubt the barrel is stressed.
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Yodog that looks very good with the 50 gr. load. I've had some loaded for weeks with 50 to 52 gr. of imr4350 and just haven't had time to shoot them.
From the looks of that group, i may have picked a good place to start with mine too.
I was hoping to find something around the 54 gr. mark too.
Lol you keep shooting like that with your new bullet and i'll probably have to give NOE another call before long.
I can't wait to give em a try with 4350 now. My brother's whelen is really likeing aa4350 so if i find a can or two, i want to give it a try too.
From the looks of that group, i may have picked a good place to start with mine too.
I was hoping to find something around the 54 gr. mark too.
Lol you keep shooting like that with your new bullet and i'll probably have to give NOE another call before long.
I can't wait to give em a try with 4350 now. My brother's whelen is really likeing aa4350 so if i find a can or two, i want to give it a try too.
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Used 2 shots to center the group on the paper.
I pulled that bottom shot and called it out.
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That 53 gr. load looks like it has real good potential.
Looks like you've been having some fun through some of this crazy weather.
Looks like you've been having some fun through some of this crazy weather.
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yodogsandman
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The storm front was at least 20 miles away yesterday when I shot!
That 53.0 gr loads' first two shots are the ones that hit high and out of the group.
Still 5 or 6 kernels of powder left in the barrel after shooting even the 55.0 gr load. At 55.0 gr, there's no more powder shaking around in a loaded round. Don't know if I can get more in there without heavy compression.
That 53.0 gr loads' first two shots are the ones that hit high and out of the group.
Still 5 or 6 kernels of powder left in the barrel after shooting even the 55.0 gr load. At 55.0 gr, there's no more powder shaking around in a loaded round. Don't know if I can get more in there without heavy compression.
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Yea, my 280 gr. bullets are running out of powder space at 55 gr. of imr 4350 too.
If i remember right 54 gr. with the 280s was 2230 fps.(not looking at my load notes right now). That's out of a 28"...well more like 25" of actual bbl. length,as the rest is chamber area.
Considering 20 mph. wind gusts that 54 gr. load may do better?
I see it was shot on a different day.
What's your take on it? Lol i'm just excited about it and guessing from the side lines...your the one pulling the trigger under some tough conditions there.
Have you considered trying a bit of crimp with the slower powders just to see? Next weekend is end of season for me(been hunting a grand total of 3 times this year).
After that, maybe before, i'll get my tail out and give these bullets a try.
Btw, how's the felt recoil from 53 to 55 gr. with 4350?
If i remember right 54 gr. with the 280s was 2230 fps.(not looking at my load notes right now). That's out of a 28"...well more like 25" of actual bbl. length,as the rest is chamber area.
Considering 20 mph. wind gusts that 54 gr. load may do better?
I see it was shot on a different day.
What's your take on it? Lol i'm just excited about it and guessing from the side lines...your the one pulling the trigger under some tough conditions there.
Have you considered trying a bit of crimp with the slower powders just to see? Next weekend is end of season for me(been hunting a grand total of 3 times this year).
After that, maybe before, i'll get my tail out and give these bullets a try.
Btw, how's the felt recoil from 53 to 55 gr. with 4350?
yodogsandman
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I moved the scope back another 1/2" between the two weeks. Also wore a coat over my jac shiirt this week. Warmed my fingers on the barrel between the 5 shot volleys.
I really never noticed recoil. Maybe I would if I was wearing just a t-shirt.
A crimp might work but, I'm using 30-06 cases resized to 35 Whelen. They lose about .035" when resized. When I trim it's just to even them all out. They're running from 2.474"to 2.481" right now. Too short to crimp into the crimp groove unless seated deeper. 270 Win brass resizes to about 2.475" or end up about .020" short.
My take on this is that groups would be better without a coat on. I also suspect the scope is either loose or going bad. Each 5 shot volley goes to a different POI. It's just a $30 scope, at least 20 years old and it's all beat up. I could drop the charges back and try magnum primers, too. It may be the cold weather.
I really never noticed recoil. Maybe I would if I was wearing just a t-shirt.
A crimp might work but, I'm using 30-06 cases resized to 35 Whelen. They lose about .035" when resized. When I trim it's just to even them all out. They're running from 2.474"to 2.481" right now. Too short to crimp into the crimp groove unless seated deeper. 270 Win brass resizes to about 2.475" or end up about .020" short.
My take on this is that groups would be better without a coat on. I also suspect the scope is either loose or going bad. Each 5 shot volley goes to a different POI. It's just a $30 scope, at least 20 years old and it's all beat up. I could drop the charges back and try magnum primers, too. It may be the cold weather.
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Looks like i'll be sizing some 06 brass up to 35 whelen also.
I picked up a lot of once fired at the range at the range last summer and a guy just gave me about 50 more and said his brother had a bunch for me too.
I also have a good bit of 270 and a few 280 once fired range brass too.
Hate to hear your scope may be suspect, but i've sure had it happen. I went through 2 brand new redfields (made in America...not the phillipene versions) year before last on my whelen.
I picked up a lot of once fired at the range at the range last summer and a guy just gave me about 50 more and said his brother had a bunch for me too.
I also have a good bit of 270 and a few 280 once fired range brass too.
Hate to hear your scope may be suspect, but i've sure had it happen. I went through 2 brand new redfields (made in America...not the phillipene versions) year before last on my whelen.
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I've been debating whether to replace the scope with the new TCA Hawkin Hunter 3-9x40 scope that Thompson Center Arms (AKA S&W) had replaced under warrantee. The old TCA scope had been on that 35 Whelen since 1996 before the stadia line fell down. So, about 20 years of pounding before going bad. The new one is just sitting there in the box.