NOE H&G 68

[fiver]

bulls-eye has been thee powder in the acp since day numero uno.
it shoots about as good as anything else.

the 250 would do well on the rock chucks, you'd probably laugh at how many ground squirrels I have shot with the shotgun.
you'd probably not believe how many rock chuck I have shot with the shotgun too.
but I do like to use the deer rifles for chuck hunting and poke them down from a couple hundred yards.

hopefully you don't mind scratching up your rifle, the lava rock is tough on the stocks.
mostly for the ground squirrels I just use the window on my truck as a rifle rest.

 

[9.3X62AL]

I have a Ruger 77R in 6.5 x 55 getting re-purposed toward varminting as we speak--85 grain Sierras and 90 grain V-Max (IIRC....) are competing for accuracy laurels currently. Deer-gun-for-rats is a noble departure on the trail of vermin management.

 

[Ian]

Deer-gun-for-rats seems like a great way to practice hitting small targets with your deer gun.

 

[fiver]

it's like shooting a pack of cigarettes in the grass or sage brush.
first you have to find them then track them to an opening or until they stop then hit them before they start moving again or go back into their hole.
sometimes you can get lucky and they all just have to try and climb up on a rock pile or on the sagebrush.
I tend to leave the single ones on the sage brush alone unless that's all I can see out there.

the rock chucks can see very well.
if your within 300 yds they are laying out motionless but are watching you very carefully.
quite often I barely see them as they are cutting into holes in the rocks, so I have to get over to a shooting spot and wait them out.
I don't know how many times I have snuck up on a piece of moss.

 

[oscarflytyer]

not to side track, but reminds me of the Korea story my FIL told. He went to Korea, and got there just after hostilities ended. He was a medic by trade. But they put him on guard duty. And as such, he got a 1911. and all the ammo he/they could shoot. And being a country boy, he was a damned good shot. Said for entertainment they would go to the dump and shoot rats with the 1911. And sure he was very good at it. They asked him if he wanted to join the AMU. Not sure he even know what the AMU was! He just simply asked them if he had to re-up, and when the answer was "yes" he said no! And after that said he couldn't have hit a barn door at 10 paces with a 1911 if he had thrown it! MANY many years later, when he went to buy son #5 a gun (older 4 brothers all got shotguns, because that is what THEY wanted. #5 is NOT a shotgun guy) - they walked into the LGS and he asked Jake what tripped his trigger. Jake pointed to a 1911 behind the glass. Before it was over, he bought Jake the used Rem R1 and also bought himself a NIB R1. Got sick shortly thereafter and never shot it. And when he passed, the 5 boys were divy'ing up guns and decided to give me his 1911. I cherish it. sorry, the rat shooting just made me reminisce...

 

[fiver]

sidetrack?
Oscar this is a thread about a 45 acp bullet.
shame on you..

 

[Ian]

We're just bs'ing while waiting for Walter to get some of thes NOE bullets loaded and shot. Currently waiting for the second pot of alloy to spill out of the pot into Lee 230TC bullets. I'd go for the #68 and a gang HP mould would be awesome but my DI AR-45 won't work with anything that has a shoulder.

 

[oscarflytyer]

sidetrack?
Oscar this is a thread about a 45 acp bullet.
shame on you..

I cast/load/shoot the HG 68 clone. so... I know... shame on me!

 

[fiver]

I seat them so there is no shoulder to speak of.
and bump the case mouth in the roll crimp die in the picky feeders.
it seemed to bump the accuracy up a tick in the boy's 1911 too.
I have too much trouble leaving the thumbnail of shoulder exposed like many do, and found the flat even oal seemed to cure any feeding/chambering issues.

 

[9.3X62AL]

I have seated my Lee Fake #68s in "both" fashions--like Lamar described with the case mouth and bullet shoulder even, and also with about .020" of front drive band exposed (like I do with the Lee TC designs). The SIG-Sauer, Glock 21, and Colt GCNM all dote on both depths. That slight taper crimp helps a bunch.