PC bullets now allowed in CBA Competitions

JWFilips

Well-Known Member
But to say PC is an advantage would require them to allow it and see. Has anyone proven it gives an advantage?
No, they have not! Actually I would feel under prepared for a long time Lube bullet shooter to Shoot against me with PC
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
that's one of many variations i've seen of the reclined position.

just my opinion but as long as the rifle is held steady it really doesn't matter how.
bench, tree limb, stick, crossed sticks, knees, legs, truck mirror, kitchen window, or door jamb....
 

Ian

Notorious member
Is it not true that PC bullets have to be pushed faster in rifles or can be pushed faster in rifles? If that is the case, then they have a distinct advantage over slower lubed bullets in have the conditions play a lesser role. I would tend to agree with those who are suggesting that they start a separate class for PC bullets. If you open up all the matches (except Schuetzen) to PC bullets, pretty soon they will all be PC matches.

PC delivers good groups at any speed in my experience, provided you can cast a good bullet and follow a few basic guidelines when loading them. There is no "rpm threshold" or pressure limit aside from maximum allowable peak pressure for the cartridge. I haven't cracked the code on getting the finest accuracy from the technique since my primary interest is full-power hunting ammunition and reasonably accurate, easy to make universal loads that work in a variety of guns of the same chamber marking but different throats and bore conditions which otherwise require unique diets. My secondary interest in powder coating is creating subsonic ammunition which doesn't lead-foul my silencers.

Having pulled more than one 5/8", 100-yard group out of my hat from a cold, clean, semi-automatic .308 battle rifle using a silencer and load that generates over 2400 fps at the muzzle, I thought it would be kinda funny to show up at a CBA match with it and place reasonably well simply because the accuracy, velocity, and ability to shoot five really fast would make up for a whole lot of what I lack in skill/knowledge of reading range conditions.

"What alloy are you using?" Whatever's in the wheelweight bucket, maybe with some solder or pewter tossed in to make it about 13 BHN air cooled from the powder coating oven and aged a month.
"How did you prep your brass?" Buy machine gun range brass, FL size, trim, load.
"You don't anneal necks?" Nope.
"You don't turn your necks?" Nope.
"Who made your barrel?" PSA. Stainless steel, lightweight profile. No, I didn't lap it or throat it, it's factory.
"Do you bump your bullets?" Nope. Whang 'em through a Lee sizer and load.
"You're cheating". Go pull any cartridge from my box, break it down, smash the bullet, and decide for yourself. Heck, here's my rifle, go shoot a group with it, you'll probably do better than I did. You got a .308 here today? Here's a handful of cartridges, wipe out your barrel and shoot a group through YOURS.

Seeing is believing. I'd like to once, just once, show in person those on the CBA forum who have given me so much grief over my opinions regarding alloy, bullet fit, bullet jump, powder choice, and so on that I'm not as full of beans as they insist.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I have no issue with plastic coated cast bullets. But a cast bullet with a plastic jacket isn't the same critter as a cast bullet using just lube, w or w/o GC. Same for paper patched. Same for a cast core in a gilding metal jacket. Simple as that. I'm not saying stop progress. I'm saying put each type in it's own class. That's the whole shebang.