PC bullets now allowed in CBA Competitions
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waco
Springfield, Oregon
I personally don’t see PC so much as any kind of advantage. You still need all the proper casting sizing and loading techniques. if nothing else a lot of times powder coating requires more work to the finished Bullet. Bore riders for a good example will need nose sizing. You could possibly end up doing a lot more to a powder coated bullet than a traditional lubed bullet. This could cause issues with inconsistency because you were manipulating the bullet more times than you normally would. I understand powder coating is not for everybody and some people will just never want to give it a shot. And that is fine. I see no problem having it as part of the CBA.
Damn Fiver, this is so well put.
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
That wasn't Shuetzen. That was called something else, the name escapes me, but IIRC it was based on a military competition.
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Agree, but we don't have open sighted flintlocks competing with modern benchrest rifles at 1000 yards. 2 different things, that's my point.
Snakeoil
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Is it not true that PC bullets have to be pushed faster in rifles or can be pushed faster in rifles? If that is the case, then they have a distinct advantage over slower lubed bullets in have the conditions play a lesser role. I would tend to agree with those who are suggesting that they start a separate class for PC bullets. If you open up all the matches (except Schuetzen) to PC bullets, pretty soon they will all be PC matches.
Michael
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Creedmoor.
There was once a rail line from New York City out to the range on Long Island.
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Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Bingo. All I could think of was Sea Girt and I knew that wasn't it. Thanks!
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Before I retired, I shot CBA matches first for the relief from the stress of work, second for the shared experience with a group of great guys, and third for the competition. Four of five hours of intense concentration at a match on a Saturday morning made me forget work and all of the pressure.
I migrated into the Plain Base Class to find my home. Two straight years of good bonus at work allowed me to buy a CPA Stevens 44 1/2 each year. Shooting this class is the second most fun thing I've done with my clothes on. (The first is sailplaning which is far more expensive.) This class is almost traditional, there are competitors who are using bolt actions and breech-seating.
This does not mean that I'll quit experimenting with other cast bullet venues. Another shooter and I are working into 6mm and then possibly powder coating. With the current shortage of primers, we are designing the testing for maximum use of this limited resource.
If I decide to hunt with cast bullets, I've several .45-70 rifles.
I migrated into the Plain Base Class to find my home. Two straight years of good bonus at work allowed me to buy a CPA Stevens 44 1/2 each year. Shooting this class is the second most fun thing I've done with my clothes on. (The first is sailplaning which is far more expensive.) This class is almost traditional, there are competitors who are using bolt actions and breech-seating.
This does not mean that I'll quit experimenting with other cast bullet venues. Another shooter and I are working into 6mm and then possibly powder coating. With the current shortage of primers, we are designing the testing for maximum use of this limited resource.
If I decide to hunt with cast bullets, I've several .45-70 rifles.
Snakeoil
Well-Known Member
There's your answer. The mission statement does not even mention carrying on traditions in any shape or form. So, PC and anything else that is able to improve the ability of a cast bullet to shoot well is right in line with the organization's mission.
JWFilips
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While I like PC, it brings a different sort of challenges! Just as we have all tried to master the Lubed bullet...PC is different enough to bring a whole bunch of its challenges! Each to his own: it is just a different quest for bullet accuracy! The work still has to be done!
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I don't think that was being argued. It was about fair competition as I saw it.
Snakeoil
Well-Known Member
Okay. But to me fair means per the rules and this was a change to the rules. It would make sense that the rules followed the objectives of the org. Since the objective is to advance and improve the sport, PC fits that objective. Anyone can use PC so that makes it fair.
So CBA follows the same basic model followed by all modern competition. Technology is king.
But to say PC is an advantage would require them to allow it and see. Has anyone proven it gives an advantage?
An organization that puts itself out there as promoting advancements in cast bullet shooting ought to stand by their word. PC is certainly an advancement but it isn’t a given that it is an accuracy or consistency advantage.