Primers

bruce381

Active Member
just loaded 100 SPP in 45 acp brass the Argentinian ones went in like butter next week will run in a glock 21 if Ok will try in wheel guns.
At $250 per sleave (5000K) still twice what i used to pay but its now about where Clintons prices were.
 
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Petrol & Powder

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just loaded 100 SPP in 45 acp brass the Argentinian ones went in like butter next week will run in a glock 21 if Ok will try in wheel guns.
At $250 per sleave (5000K) still twice what i used to pay but its now about where Clintons prices were.
Using 1994 as a date in the Clinton era (30 years ago) and one of the inflation calculators (there are several) we get the buying power of $2.10 in 1994 money equaling $1.00 today. So, just about half the buying power today per U.S. dollar compared to 1994 dollars.
For that reason alone, we will probably never see $20 per thousand primer prices again but we are starting to move in the right direction.


 

fiver

Well-Known Member
i'm right there with ya, man.
i called the ridiculous increases and permanent screw the customer pricing scheme on day one.
winchester is just along for the ride, they ain't really releasing anything more than a trickle, but they just shrug at the whatever the people will pay prices being double what they were not too long ago and push the button.
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
PS: I'm still using actual powder and primers I bought in 1994. Made a casual restock phone call one day and found out the end of the world as we knew it had occurred without my prior knowledge. Calmly continued to place my order and then made a few other calls to other suppliers who'd not gotten word yet and ordered a little more.
 

L Ross

Well-Known Member
A case of primers has always been five bricks (1000/brick).....................any brand that I ever purchased.
Well I gotta laugh at myself. It has been a long time since I opened a case, but I went and looked at a brick and yessir, 10 boxes of 100 primers each x 5 bricks equals a case of 5,000 primers. But still, the Midsouth ad says 5,000 for $349.99 at 7¢ each.
 
This is an eye opener finding out about the Argentinian SPP at NormaUSA for $50 with free shipping and no hazmat. I thought $62.99 and free hazmat from Powder Valley was the best I would see this year. $53 to my door vs $70
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
Well I gotta laugh at myself. It has been a long time...

Young people think that our faculties begin to erode as we age, but it's just that we get smarter about what we choose to retain and don't worry as much about whether others think we're smart or not. I had to explain this to a young person not too long ago - that "I'm not stupid, I just don't give a sh..." I was amazed and impressed at here response: "THAT'S SO COOL!"
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
This is an eye opener finding out about the Argentinian SPP at NormaUSA for $50 with free shipping and no hazmat. I thought $62.99 and free hazmat from Powder Valley was the best I would see this year. $53 to my door vs $70

Powder Valley seems to make an effort to actually be competitive and I applaud them for that. That's still not bad competing against an importer.

HOWEVER, if it takes foreign competition to loosen the stranglehold, I'm all for it. Brand loyalty is out the window. I've used Russian and Czech primers and have been very happy with them. They don't have to say "CCI, Remington, Federal or Winchester" on the box for me. I'll buy someone else's even if I don't need any just to nudge the capitalistic karma of competition.
 

obssd1958

Well-Known Member
So $110 per 1000, before shipping, hazmat, or tax. I've seen them go for $100 or less per 1000 at the local gunshows!
Don't need any, so I guess it doesn't really apply to me anyway.
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
About five years ago, I loaded some '06 cast loads with 1937 US GI corrosive primers. Every one of the them fired perfectly. Think there is about 800 left if I ever need them.

Someone, maybe @Outpost75 , used the term "partizan hand-loading" once and I think the concept is quite valid for many or most of us today. I've never been one to waste anything, let alone primers and have used primers I've removed from cases as recently as ... RECENTLY. Maybe late last year.

I wonder how all this affects some who take a bit too much for granted these days. I personally enjoy finding ways to make things work without the easy way out of just buying new stuff to solve every problem. Since 2008, I've made something of a hobby of it. Before that, it was just ingrained behavior from being influenced by people who really HAD lived through some seriously tough times.
 

JonB

Halcyon member
About five years ago, I loaded some '06 cast loads with 1937 US GI corrosive primers. Every one of the them fired perfectly. Think there is about 800 left if I ever need them.
Two years ago at a gunshow, I bought a small plastic storage container (maybe 6 qt sized?) at a gunshow, it was full of old tins of Percussion caps, old round tins of primers, some old tins of 22 blanks...and some other goodies. I sorted everything into similar lots, put 'em in baggies, and flipped most of it at the next gunshow. Except the Primers, I saved those.
There ended up being 6 round tins of primers, 4 seemed full or almost full and marked qty:250. Why am I mentioning this? Today, I was loading a few batches of 45acp. On one batch (test loads, 27 rds) I decided to prime with Winchester #2 primers from one of those old tins. First time I even looked at these old primers, since I stored them away 2 yrs ago. I plan to test fire those tomorrow.
I was thinking they might be as old as WWI vintage? The Tin with ripped red paper label looks exactly like the one in ebay link. That guy thinks 1878, but that's just patent date.