Savage 340 .30-30 coming - any tips appreciated
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Pistolero
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Sounds good. I normally use W748, will try some of the other powders recommended, too.
Hmm, Brad. OK, 550 puts out about 500 rds per hour, and the minigun puts out about 3000
rounds per minute. So, 6 hours on the press and you can get a 60 second burst......
One hour gets you 10 seconds.....
3000 rds is a heck of a payload for small AC, too.
I have a friend who was a AC-47 pilot in Vietnam. He said that they had three miniguns, but
only ran one at a time. At that firing rate, jams are frequent. He said that there was a
crewman with an aluminum grain scoop shoveling brass and links out the open door
to keep the floor clear. When one gun jammed, they brought another gun on line and
worked on clearing the jam. With three, they could keep on line for long periods, although
ammo was a limitation, too. Had to switch guns when the ammo supply ran out, move
more crates and feed the belts, getting ready for the next jam or empty gun.
Bill
Hmm, Brad. OK, 550 puts out about 500 rds per hour, and the minigun puts out about 3000
rounds per minute. So, 6 hours on the press and you can get a 60 second burst......
One hour gets you 10 seconds.....
3000 rds is a heck of a payload for small AC, too.
I have a friend who was a AC-47 pilot in Vietnam. He said that they had three miniguns, but
only ran one at a time. At that firing rate, jams are frequent. He said that there was a
crewman with an aluminum grain scoop shoveling brass and links out the open door
to keep the floor clear. When one gun jammed, they brought another gun on line and
worked on clearing the jam. With three, they could keep on line for long periods, although
ammo was a limitation, too. Had to switch guns when the ammo supply ran out, move
more crates and feed the belts, getting ready for the next jam or empty gun.
Bill
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Pistolero
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I've had the Savage to the range, tested a few loads, and once again, I have to shake my head about
some of the used rifles I buy. This thing has a Williams peep added to it, and it is pretty nice, peeps
are pretty much a requirement for me with my eyes - (middle sights (on bbl) are invisible to me these days).
But, with all the ammo tested, including some factory 150 JFPs, the gun shoots about a foot high at
50 yds! OK, I looked and there was a good bit of adjustment available at the rear sight, so just
shot some groups.
Once I got home I measured and calculated the adjustment needed. As I tried to put it on the
gun, the crossbar hit the bolt.......calcs show that it is still going to be 4.5" high at 50 yds. So, this
proves to me that nobody could have had this rifle sighted in at all..... Can people not understand
how to adjust sights? Do they just sell the gun if they can't hit with it? I have purchase at least 5 or 6
rifles which were impossible to get within 6" of the POA with the existing sights, I needed to do
a modification, tyically taller front sight, to get them to shoot properly. There should be enough
meat in the crossbar to mill off about .060" and make the gun shoot "on" at 50 yds. I expect that
it needs to be 1-2" low at 50 to be on at 100, but I will shoot it at 100 before milling, just to check.
Weird. Best guess is that it shot OK with the factory middle sight and somebody added the peep.
couldn't get it to work and put it up for sale.
It shoots OK, about 1.5-2" groups at 50 yds with peep, may be my eyes adding another
1/2" or more due to aging issues - glaucoma and cataract replacement lenses not working
like "the old days". 34 gr of W748 under a RD 165 sized .310 with LBT blue was about 1 3/4"
at 50 yds, plenty good for hunting. I will be trying some different bullet after T'day.
Wood is nice plain walnut, in great shape, metal finish is very good plus, trigger is really
decent, no complaints at all, actually.
Bill
some of the used rifles I buy. This thing has a Williams peep added to it, and it is pretty nice, peeps
are pretty much a requirement for me with my eyes - (middle sights (on bbl) are invisible to me these days).
But, with all the ammo tested, including some factory 150 JFPs, the gun shoots about a foot high at
50 yds! OK, I looked and there was a good bit of adjustment available at the rear sight, so just
shot some groups.
Once I got home I measured and calculated the adjustment needed. As I tried to put it on the
gun, the crossbar hit the bolt.......calcs show that it is still going to be 4.5" high at 50 yds. So, this
proves to me that nobody could have had this rifle sighted in at all..... Can people not understand
how to adjust sights? Do they just sell the gun if they can't hit with it? I have purchase at least 5 or 6
rifles which were impossible to get within 6" of the POA with the existing sights, I needed to do
a modification, tyically taller front sight, to get them to shoot properly. There should be enough
meat in the crossbar to mill off about .060" and make the gun shoot "on" at 50 yds. I expect that
it needs to be 1-2" low at 50 to be on at 100, but I will shoot it at 100 before milling, just to check.
Weird. Best guess is that it shot OK with the factory middle sight and somebody added the peep.
couldn't get it to work and put it up for sale.
It shoots OK, about 1.5-2" groups at 50 yds with peep, may be my eyes adding another
1/2" or more due to aging issues - glaucoma and cataract replacement lenses not working
like "the old days". 34 gr of W748 under a RD 165 sized .310 with LBT blue was about 1 3/4"
at 50 yds, plenty good for hunting. I will be trying some different bullet after T'day.
Wood is nice plain walnut, in great shape, metal finish is very good plus, trigger is really
decent, no complaints at all, actually.
Bill
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RicinYakima
High Steppes of Eastern Washington
On "cheap" guns it amazes me that guys would not spend a buck to put on a higher front sight. My experience like yours is that a new front sight makes everything work just fine. I remember the days when a Redfield front sight was $2.50 and a rear was $25.00. Penny wise and pound foolish.
Str8shot426
Member
I just tonite won a 340c on gun broker. Had to have one.
Pistolero
Well-Known Member
I will mill off a little from the bottom of the rear sight, we'll see if that is enough. If not,
I will need to get or make a taller front sight. It is probably fine with the standard "middle"
barrel sight, but I can no longer see those well enough to use, need a peep or scope. Trying
to avoid a scope, but that may wind up being the solution.
I also got a .22 Hornet coming, it comes with a scope mount, but no scope. I will probably
rent a KHornet reamer and switch to that wildcat, but only after trying it as is. I am thinking
that this may be a good squirrel rifle.
Bill
I will need to get or make a taller front sight. It is probably fine with the standard "middle"
barrel sight, but I can no longer see those well enough to use, need a peep or scope. Trying
to avoid a scope, but that may wind up being the solution.
I also got a .22 Hornet coming, it comes with a scope mount, but no scope. I will probably
rent a KHornet reamer and switch to that wildcat, but only after trying it as is. I am thinking
that this may be a good squirrel rifle.
Bill
RBHarter
West Central AR
Just a couple pictures of the sights fitted on a 325 and 340 . The peep sight was most likely fitted on the new rifle as the maker cessed business in 1951 if I'm remembering right . The other is a common Weaver mount . Both are very stable and the peep sight offers excellent picture and adjustment that would probably allow 300 no hold over 30-30 . The Weaver is on a 222 340 of probably 80s vintage the 30-30 is a 49' .
oscarflytyer
Well-Known Member
Finally shot my 340 in 222 Rem at 100 yds. Was worried about the last 1 1/2" of the bbl, but it is cutting perfect round holes at 100 yds, so all good. I have the Weaver side mount on mine. When scoping it, I learned that 1) most new scopes have a very large variable power ring, and 2) the bolt won't clear most of them! If you scope yours with the Weaver side mount, look for a scope with a small variable ring. Leupold VX1 works great on mine. Additionally, Weaver now makes an extended ring piece for their side mount. B Square also makes a side mount and ring set for the 340. Last, Brownells makes replacement triggers if yours is not that good.
oscarflytyer
Well-Known Member
w/o the iron, mine will accept a 50 mm bell. But I just went with a 40mm. The bolt would brush the adjustment tube on my Banner
RBHarter
West Central AR
It is White or or Whitting fabrication co as I recall . They were in business about 1946-51 or 56. It is a nice sight it may be better than the 03A3 sight for seeing . By today's standards it is a cheap wave washer detent , stamped steel sight . It has in spite of that proven very serviceable and accurate .
SierraHunter
Bullshop jr
I've never owned one, but have shot several and they seen to shoot really well.