Uberti Stalking Rifle

[RBHarter]

A magazine is a closed holder of ammunition usually held at ready to be fed into the chamber .
A clip is an open ammunition holder that may be used to feed a chamber or used as a charging device .
So far so good .
My tall boy pill bottle holds 5 preloaded 45 ACP 1917 moon clips in a closed container ready to charge the chambers .
It is in fact a magazine that holds clips holding 30 rounds .
By definition it is a 30 round , clip , magazine .

I have 2 of those Savage CLIPs that are obviously box magazines .
Mom has a single shot pistol marked 45 LC /410 .
Nobody takes issue with 38 Special but it is in fact correctly called a 38 S&W Special , just like my Grandfather's 1947 missed being a victory model by about 1000 M10 Smith and Wesson says on the barrel .
Why oh pray thee tell does nobody call a 45 S&W a 45 S&W ? Nooooooo it's always a Schofield which also is not the designation of the S&W Auto Ejector for which the cartridge was created although it is generally understood that those are Schofields ...........

Let's not visit the short 38 that has like 5 recognized names because arms makers didn't want the other guys name on their wares .

The 40 and 10 mm .......
WCF .......
9mm ....... nobody confuses that with a 380 , 9mm Kurtz ,or the more obscure 9mm Browning short , or the largo , or Mac , or 9×21/23/25 , or the 9mm Winchester Magnum . Nope it's just the good old Luger/Parabellum/Para 9×19 .....

Then there's the 380 Auto that is not a 380 ACP but is a 38 Auto except when it's a 38 Super Auto .....or something like that .

If a magazine for an AR/MSR or M&P family pistol were to be skeletonized thus exposing the loaded ammunition would that individual magazine then be a clip or would it keep it's magazine status by virtue of it's retained spring and follower ?

I worked a long time in magazines , 3 in fact that cover 172,000 acres . Those magazines had 100s of bunkers some of which held magazines and clips ...... and a lot of other really cool stuff . I was surprised by how small a Saturn V second stage motor is . General Foods .......I will never ever look at a Cheerio the same way .

 

[RBHarter]

For the record it's all in good fun I know the difference .
It just isn't a big deal .

Nobody cares that I own an enblock fed bolt action chambered for an MSR mildcat .

 

[RBHarter]

The POS was made by Savage Arms circa 1947-1951 after they got things settled down from their WWII production contracts . It fits the 325/340/840 series rifles .

 

[Joshua]

“When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies? Perhaps to be too practical may be madness. To surrender dreams, this may be madness. To seek treasures where there is only trash...Too much sanity may be madness, and maddest of all is to see life as it is and not as it should be.”
Don Quixote

Mad I may be, but an idiot I’m not.

 

[Missionary]

Only High Wall we have owned and happily still do is a Browning (jap) in 375 H&H with a 26" barrel. Typical beautiful Browning class and a very fine shooter of a 270 gr FNGC NOE slug cast of WDWW pushed by enough Buff Rifle to slink along at 2200 fps.
Sized at .376 it will shoot fine cloverleafs at 100 yards off cross sticks.
I dream of the day one of the non-existent East ILL-Nois cougars pokes his long lanky body out in a clear spot for just a few seconds.

 

[Brad]

So everybody has to be an idiot because whoever made that POS was ?

"A clip is a device that is used to store multiple rounds of ammunition together as a unit for insertion into the magazine or cylinder of a firearm. This speeds up the process by loading the firearm with several rounds at once, rather than one at a time ('loose rounds'). There are several types, most made of inexpensive stamped sheet metal, intended to be disposable, though they are often re-used."

A magazine is an ammunition storage and feeding device for a repeating firearm, either integral within the gun (internal/fixed magazine) or externally attached (detachable magazine). The magazine functions by holding several cartridges within itself and sequentially pushing each one into a position where it may be readily loaded into the barrel chamber by the firearm's moving action.

Bad enuf the media DNS about guns, surprised to see it here.

I bet the majority here know but they have the class to not rub someone’s nose in it.

 

[Bret4207]

I dunno, a .45 ACP single-action revolver make a lot of sense from the perspective of how accurate the design tends to be and how inexpensive and available the cartridge brass is by comparison to .45 Colt. BUT....yeah, I agree mostly. Rims for revolvers, single-shots, and tubular magazines (including shotguns). Rimless for bolt actions (repeater or otherwise), semi-autos, and anything which stacks the the cartridges in a magazine.

Bret, I've been informed that the colors are "desert tan" or "flat dark earth", and my tacticool blasters are all highly offended, especially the ones which identify as "multi-caliber". The ones who would like to be a different classification but are discriminated against by the NFA and and the closing of the machine gun registry are also offended by pretty much everything. Whatever you do, don't mention how they look when wearing "high-capacity" magazines.

I stand corrected! First chance I get I will offer profuse apologies to the beige/desert tan/flat dark earth cadre!

 

[Bret4207]

Perhaps I should ask what I am to call my 6mm Remmington- "6MM Rem" or "244 Rem"? Or a 280 Rem/7mm Express? And is it a 32 S+W Long or 32 Colt New Police? 38 S+W 200gr or 38 S+W Super Police?

Give it a rest guy. Develop a sense of humor and go get a bucket of humility someplace. Everyone here is entitled by God and the TOS to their opinion, odd personal traits and appreciation of things that make absolutely no sense at all to other people. That's what makes this place fun!

 

[Rick]

So everybody has to be an idiot because whoever made that POS was ?

Seems everyone that might disagree with Swiss Shooter is an idiot. That is getting old. Very old indeed. I suggest Swiss Shooter clean up his attitude. We don't call other members here names. If you disagree with someone, on any subject explain why nicely without name calling or don't comment.

 

[richhodg66]

Is that Savage 340 magazine one of the new production ones being made now? I have a couple of 340s and don't recall that much verbiage on any of them, especially not the "front" stamping.

Those little 340s are better rifles than they are given credit for being generally. Quite innovative in their time, too, not sure I would call one a "POS".

 

[Cadillac Jeff]

Thank's Rick !

Don't know if we have an ignore button or not ??? have been thinkin I might ----if we had one & I knew how to use it if we did

Jeff

 

[Rick]

Thank's Rick !

Don't know if we have an ignore button or not ??? have been thinkin I might ----if we had one & I knew how to use it if we did

Jeff

Yes we do . . . Simply click on the avatar of the person you wish to ignore and in the window that pops up click on "ignore". Seems that feature has been used a lot lately.

 

[RicinYakima]

Uh, The Winchester High Wall predates 1975 by just a few years.

That is why I have a nice C Sharps Arms target rifle in 40/50 Sharps Straight.

 

[RBHarter]

Is that Savage 340 magazine one of the new production ones being made now? I have a couple of 340s and don't recall that much verbiage on any of them, especially not the "front" stamping.

Those little 340s are better rifles than they are given credit for being generally. Quite innovative in their time, too, not sure I would call one a "POS".

I think the clip was dropped with the change from 325 to 340 . I know the 80 something 340 was only marked with caliber and maker .

Also the new magazines require notch adjustment to fit the 325s .

As I'm still looking for an unsatisfactory load for the 30-30 and 222 rifles made in 1951 and 1984 or 86 I wouldn't say they are bad rifles they just lack line grace . They are also a fine example of just how inexpensively a solid accurate rifle can be produced . Unfortunately cheap production doesn't lend itself to fluid grace although Bill Ruger was close with the BlackHawk . Fortunately most of us have an appreciation for cast iron work horses , as well as the King Ranch editions and occasionally stumble over a 53 Corvette , XJ 12 Jag , or something else rivaling the same fluid grace and flow ......... 51' 325 looks like junk next to an FN 98 or even a beat up M70 but it's a $200 rifle that will never bring 500-1000 even if you slathered on an oz of gold .

 

[462]

Is that Savage 340 magazine one of the new production ones being made now? I have a couple of 340s and don't recall that much verbiage on any of them, especially not the "front" stamping.

Those little 340s are better rifles than they are given credit for being generally. Quite innovative in their time, too, not sure I would call one a "POS".

My 340 was an older, non-serial numbered "Chicopee Falls" marked version and it's "magazine" was stamped "clip". Unfortunately, I don't know if it was original to the rifle, nor if "front" was included.

 

[CWLONGSHOT]

Is that Savage 340 magazine one of the new production ones being made now? I have a couple of 340s and don't recall that much verbiage on any of them, especially not the "front" stamping.

Those little 340s are better rifles than they are given credit for being generally. Quite innovative in their time, too, not sure I would call one a "POS".

Mine too 462.

IIRC THE Remingtons for the 760/740's WHERE ALSO emblazoned with "CLIP". As was some Savage magazines.

CW

 

[CWLONGSHOT]

 

[Brad]

Yep, Remington went under because gun nuts didn’t like that they mislabeled magazines

 

[Bret4207]

Thank's Rick !

Don't know if we have an ignore button or not ??? have been thinkin I might ----if we had one & I knew how to use it if we did

Jeff

We have one as noted above, I use it for one person. Might start adding to the list though.

I think most of us here started off on another board-which-shall-not-be-named. I would imagine most have see what happens when only one brand of opinion/thought/etc is allowed. And then there's the whole getting your day in court thing too. I sincerely hope all of us here can be adult enough not to think our way is the only way or that our opinion is the only right opinion. Humility is good trait to have.

 

[richhodg66]

So, back to the original topic, has anybody seen and handled one of these?