Using Bullseye in the .30-'06 Without Blowing Yourself Up!

[richhodg66]

the versatility of the 0-6 is truly amazing.
it easily matches the 32-20, and then will throw a 150gr. jacketed bullet to about 3-K fps. without much trouble.
it will even launch heavier stuff out to 1-K yds. accurately.

the other 30's will do a few things better here and there,,, but across the board? they can't.

In order to gain any kind of advantage over the '06, big enough compromises must be made that it isn't worth the trade off, in my opinion. Unless looking for some very specialized niche, it can't be beat. That said, regular types of loadings in the '06 really are way more power than one needs for deer, almost ridiculously over powerful, but it will surely get it done.

 

[Jeff H]

....That said, regular types of loadings in the '06 really are way more power than one needs for deer, almost ridiculously over powerful, but it will surely get it done.

If I still had an '06, I'd not be shooting it to its potential, but still shooting it because I liked the gun so much - which would have been one or another bolt-actions. No argument that you could take one about anywhere, but I don't venture past walking distance from my house even to hunt any more.

No truly large or even remotely dangerous game on my bill, so I get along well with the smaller rimmed cases and single-shots, but still have the utmost respect for the '06.

 

[richhodg66]

A couple or three years ago, I got behind and the early antlerless deer season came. Didn't have a cast load worked up so went to a box of Sierra Game Kings and a bottle of iInchester 760 I hadn't used in ten years or more. I knew the rifle liked that combo and it still di, but Holy Cow it kicked and made noise after shooting almost exclusively for years. Not gonna do that much anymore, but it did get the deer that weekend.

 

[Missionary]

1st 06 none military we bought was / is our CZ 500 30-06. Still the most accurate factory 06 we have ever had.
But that also awakened me to opening up the 06 case to .375. Great case in all the other possibilities.

 

[nanuk]

I think it is hard to say one cartridge is king over others

in my mind, there are no "All 'round" cartridges

although I have in mind some that I think would be better "Kings" than the -06

 

[Glaciers]

I think it is hard to say one cartridge is king over others

in my mind, there are no "All 'round" cartridges

although I have in mind some that I think would be better "Kings" than the -06

Well I’ll refer you to Fivers post:

the versatility of the 0-6 is truly amazing.
it easily matches the 32-20, and then will throw a 150gr. jacketed bullet to about 3-K fps. without much trouble.
it will even launch heavier stuff out to 1-K yds. accurately.

the other 30's will do a few things better here and there,,, but across the board? they can't.

I’ve had 25-06, 270, 338/06, 35 Whelen, 22LR to 460 WM. The 30-06 can use jacketed from 90 to the 250 grain Original that Barnes used to make. Now you can pick a caliber that matches a particular job better, but for a one rifle caliber guy I personally have found it’s very hard to go wrong with the 30-06. I don’t hunt anymore but when I did I had and still have more choices than a sane person normally would have. But I found myself usually grabbing the 30-06.

Now I’m not picking on you, so don’t get me wrong, I just naturally will speak up for the friend that the old 06 has been. And I understand that you’re mileage may vary.

If I had to pick 3 guns it would be a 22LR, a 30-06 and a shotgun. I dislike shotguns, so I’d probably make the third a 44 model 29 Smith
So many choices

 

[nanuk]

Up in NewChina, we can't own handguns anymore... so I can no longer dream of reacquiring my Dan Wesson pistol pack.

I used to think like you. 22LR, but have since moved to the thought of downloaded centerfires. If I had to have only one, it'd be a 223. although my least favourite, Brass would always be available. a 222 would be near the top right beside my Hornet... hard to decide.

as for shotguns, while I really like my .410s, I'd go with a 12ga, like my Mossy multi barrel setup. I have barrels from 14" to 30" and several in between, with some rifling in them as well.

for rifles, I get your love for the -06. truly I do. But not being American, there is no real love for it.... and there are others that can do what it does, and more.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree on "The King"! Hahahaaaa...

 

[Snakeoil]

I edited the article so it was in portrait format, resized the tables so they fit and reduced the margins so it would be more condensed and saved it in a current Word Format as well as PDF. Attached it here.

 

[JonB]

I think it is hard to say one cartridge is king over others

in my mind, there are no "All 'round" cartridges

although I have in mind some that I think would be better "Kings" than the -06

I wouldn't label the 30-06 as King, as others have. Honestly, I don't really know what caliber could be King?
I agree with you 100% that, "I get your love for the -06. truly I do. But not being American, there is no real love for it"
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with that said, I'm glad you mentioned "All around cartridges". Because if you live in the USA, whether you load your own or not, with the popularity of the 30-06 cartridge, there is just so many more options of factory ammo or components for loading it, than any other caliber, that it really is THEE All Around cartridge. It does most things adequately, but that doesn't make it the best choice for everything, in fact, a All Around cartridge likely doesn't do most things in the BEST fashion, just adequate.
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Now that's all said from a fella that loves the 30-06.

 

[Snakeoil]

Personally I don't think an all-around cartridge exists. I say that because the applications are so wide and varied that it would be impossible for one cartridge to meet all the various requirements.

It's like looking for the best all-around vehicle. It doesn't exist and probably never will.

 

[nanuk]

JonB, honestly I wish I did live in the US, but it is not in my near future....

the USA is the best country in the world!

 

[nanuk]

Personally I don't think an all-around cartridge exists. I say that because the applications are so wide and varied that it would be impossible for one cartridge to meet all the various requirements.

It's like looking for the best all-around vehicle. It doesn't exist and probably never will.

yup.
all depends on your point of view.

But can we all agree that Chocolate is the best all around food group?

 

[Snakeoil]

yup.
all depends on your point of view.

But can we all agree that Chocolate is the best all around food group?

Well, DARK chocolate for sure. Milk chocolate requires nuts to kill the sweetness. See, no all-around chocolate, either.

 

[JonB]

Personally I don't think an all-around cartridge exists. I say that because the applications are so wide and varied that it would be impossible for one cartridge to meet all the various requirements.

It's like looking for the best all-around vehicle. It doesn't exist and probably never will.

I guess it's all in the definition, which hasn't been specified.
I consider All Around to be something that does more, than any of the other things of that category.
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best all around vehicle (in the USA)?
I'm gonna go with the Ford F150.

 

[JonB]

But can we all agree that Chocolate is the best all around food group?

mmm, Chocolate ...yes please !

 

[Glaciers]

Up in NewChina, we can't own handguns anymore... so I can no longer dream of reacquiring my Dan Wesson pistol pack.

Ok I would like everyone to post in their profile where they live at least the region. It would help with understanding why a person post an opinion. Obviously different regions will color persons opinions and firearm choices.
My second choice for a threesome of firearms would be a 22LR, 30-30 lever gun and step up the pistol to a 480.

 

[Glaciers]

And I love milk chocolate especially with nuts. Not into bitter dark chocolate.
But I’m an Alaskan so It’s dark enough here for half a year. That might be what effects my opinion.

 

[fiver]

nuther mostly Milk Chocolate guy here.
but there's chocolate and then there's chocolate.
the cacao percentage and sugar content really dictate the sweetness and bitterness of it's use or end flavor when used for cooking.

 

[MW65]

Dark chocolate any day of the week, and dark chocolate almonds are great as well.

Bullseye as a gallery load works great in the 06, 303, 7.5x55, and 7.62x54r... equal opportunity fun load... whipped up some tl313-150, as cast at .314. Need to send it thru the no4

 

[Bret4207]

No chocolate at all for me thanks! And the 280 Rem, or even the 7x57, would probably win for "Best all round" in my book, except for cast use. Bring cast into it and I'll go 35 Whelen. Never was an '06 admirer.