.32 H&R
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Yeah, right.
You DO know how this works, right? You find the gun, rationalize how twice what you thought it should cost is still almost somewhat reasonably acceptable, especially since you have so many others you don't use that you could sell - ostensibly, then take out a home equity line of credit, fork over the cash, don't eat lunch for four years, while you look for a set of dies and "other accessories" everyone suddenly decided to discontinue,...
Oh, THEN, some joker puts up a 32 Mag Single Six for sale and you cant have JUST a 32 Mag rifle, now can you? NO! You'll need a 32 Mag SINGLE SIX to go with it! WHY they stopped making those is so far beyond me, but I'm not the marketing genius here, so I'll just start the above process all over again and somehow justify paying even MORE for for the SS than the rifle,...
I'm not making fun of YOU, @Bret4207 , I'm making fun of ME! THIS is the rabbit hole I've dived into before. I've sworn I'd not do it again, but really, If Rossi got off their duff and made a 16" 92 in 32 Mag, I'd lose it and end up right back in that old cycle, but THIS time it would be different. THIS time, I'd have the perfect rifle/revolver combo. THIS time,...
Thinking about that,... Man, I'm going to go take a cold shower and then go out and split a big pile of wood or something, before I hyperventilate.
You DO know how this works, right? You find the gun, rationalize how twice what you thought it should cost is still almost somewhat reasonably acceptable, especially since you have so many others you don't use that you could sell - ostensibly, then take out a home equity line of credit, fork over the cash, don't eat lunch for four years, while you look for a set of dies and "other accessories" everyone suddenly decided to discontinue,...
Oh, THEN, some joker puts up a 32 Mag Single Six for sale and you cant have JUST a 32 Mag rifle, now can you? NO! You'll need a 32 Mag SINGLE SIX to go with it! WHY they stopped making those is so far beyond me, but I'm not the marketing genius here, so I'll just start the above process all over again and somehow justify paying even MORE for for the SS than the rifle,...
I'm not making fun of YOU, @Bret4207 , I'm making fun of ME! THIS is the rabbit hole I've dived into before. I've sworn I'd not do it again, but really, If Rossi got off their duff and made a 16" 92 in 32 Mag, I'd lose it and end up right back in that old cycle, but THIS time it would be different. THIS time, I'd have the perfect rifle/revolver combo. THIS time,...
Thinking about that,... Man, I'm going to go take a cold shower and then go out and split a big pile of wood or something, before I hyperventilate.
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
My wife says I'm stuck in the 90's as far as what my idea of a "decent price" is. I don't care. There was never a Rossi, Henry or current production Marlin worth over $500.00 in my book. I just saw a 357 Marlin at a local shop on line and the tag price was well over a grand!!!
I don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings, and this is not to disparage Marlin - or any other "cheap" gun for that matter, as I am rather fond of "cheap guns in particular, BUT Marlin was always a "cheap" gun.
Marlins are what regular folks bought and used, and I mean USED. They ever got the respect and TLC someone else's "nicer" guns got. I don't remember anyone among the general populous of hunters ever, who bought a new Marlin within the past few decades, bragging about their new baby, showing it off and extolling its engineering and superior level of quality and wonderful finish. They weren't finished all that nicely. They went on sale for under $300 when most other rifles with walnut stocks were fetching $450 new, and used ones, right after deer season, would show up in pawn shops and gun shops for $150, with the room to let the next owner talk the proprietor down to $125 out the door. Some poor fella was always trying to move one for $100 to pay for parts to get his truck back on the road. They were "a dime a dozen." Common.
I do NOT look down on them for that, in fact this is what endears them to me.
Rossis,... In 2009 or 2010, I bought a 92 for $430, new. It was a mess, but I believe not typical. I was astounded that they cost that much, expecting to pay something under $300. That just over a decade ago - not THAT long. I do believe that they have made improvements to their manufacturing and think they are decent guns, but not $700 and $800 guns.
"Stuck in the nineties? Well, over the past decade or so, things have soared all out of proportion to what we've seen in the past. I expect to see prices rise, but when the sellers have the buyers by their purse strings, because there are so many who will just hand over the money,...
It's not that ANY of these guns are "worth" what anyone is charging, but that so many people don't seem to be very mindful of how much comes in versus how much goes out, so if you don't fork it over, they will. I don't understand how people are affording to pay for all the guns being sold these days.
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CZ93X62
Official forum enigma
Buyer willingness to fork over large amounts for most gun-related items is biting us all on the aspirations. Inflation is real, no doubt about it--but so too is buccaneering and price gouging. It's a vicious cycle--demand depleting market/scarcity pushing demand/pricing inflation from both. We gotta stop buying so wildly or prices will never moderate.
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
My 2 "nicest" rifles are my 70's Savage 99 and my '53 Marlin 336 SC 35 Rem. I've known lots of people that bragged on their Marlin 336's, Win 94's and other "consumer level" rifles. The Marlins up into the 50's were much nicer, IMO, than the later 60's/70's guns. Same for the Winchesters. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, etc.
Don't get me wrong guys, I am aware that a MUCH higher standard was prevalent way back when, and have watched (as you have) as that standard eroded steadily. STILL, even the guns made with someone else's name on them (Monkey Wards, Sears, Western Auto), while not museum pieces, were rock solid performers of good design, but not show-pieces and not highly priced new, let alone used.
They were, however, very common - prolific and taken for granted by many, if not most. As unspecified "hardwood" replaced walnut and polished metal with deep blue was supplanted by what I'd call a "mill finish" on many common American arms, they were still good design and still did their jobs well.
Kind of sad that run of the mill economy models of yesterday are now seen as premium today. I suppose every generation has seen this, but it seems to have really escalated in the past few years.
AGAIN - no disrespect intended toward these guns or their owners.
They were, however, very common - prolific and taken for granted by many, if not most. As unspecified "hardwood" replaced walnut and polished metal with deep blue was supplanted by what I'd call a "mill finish" on many common American arms, they were still good design and still did their jobs well.
Kind of sad that run of the mill economy models of yesterday are now seen as premium today. I suppose every generation has seen this, but it seems to have really escalated in the past few years.
AGAIN - no disrespect intended toward these guns or their owners.
My Marlin 357 is the only one I would consider selling. Too short a barrel, doesn’t shoot very well. I also have a very nice 92 Winchester in 357. Only advantage to the Marlin Is the receiver sight. Well, the 44 Mag may be leaving soon enough too. It also doesn’t do what I want.
I did buy a 90s era Rossi 92 in 44 mag in Tulsa. Nice rifle, smooth action. Much better looking than the current models. Wasn’t cheap at 750 but in todays world it was worth it- to me.
Sometimes you have to pay the price to play,
I did buy a 90s era Rossi 92 in 44 mag in Tulsa. Nice rifle, smooth action. Much better looking than the current models. Wasn’t cheap at 750 but in todays world it was worth it- to me.
Sometimes you have to pay the price to play,
At least you didn't have to pay $1200 to play. Sounds like you did OK in spite of the madness.
My personal preference is for the 92 design, but my brother got mine. I'd like to have it back, but I like that he has one, so the patient search is on.
Ive got a like-new CZ 527 in 7.62x39 I'd trade straight up for the right 357 Rossi 92 right now and the 527s are going for stupid money. I'd rather have what I'd use.
CWLONGSHOT
Well-Known Member
Exactly. I had most every iteration Marlin made since the 1950's at one time. Today just a choice "few" but ones I kept are special to me. First production SC waffle tops in 30/30 $ 35 Rem. A 1970 1895. First production 1894 357. Marauders 30/30 & 35 Rem. Sold off my 444's had all three. Kept the 375 Winchesters. Sold off the 57 22 mag & 62 256 WM too. Sold off the 44/40 & 41 Magnums. Kinda wish some hadn't been sold but bought "rite" & sold @ a profit so no shame.
I love them. Yes they are not on par with. Fine European SxS but so what. They are pleasant in the hand smooth to operate feel & shoot well. Imho far better then the 1894 Winchester but not on par with the 1892/1886 Winchesters.
CW
Glaciers
Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
Nothing wrong with Marlins, there just not for me.
I don’t dislike Marlins but I prefer the Winchester 92’s and 94’s. I’ve got mixed emotions about the 336 35 Remington but I have a nice 141 Remington in the 35. Didn’t care for the 44 Marlin, so that one didn’t hurt my feelings especially as I well over doubled my money actually close to tripled my money for a rifle I didn’t use.
Happy as a clam with a Browning B-92 in 44 and would love to have a 357 in the Browning, but prices are up there on the 357’s.
I’ve got a Rossi SS 357 and one in 44 with the 16” barrel that I need to do the “Rossi refinements” on, and then I’m good. Reducing my stock of firearms, giving my boys a few, set some aside for the grandkids. Well just becoming more interested in “fun” guns rifles in 22LR and 32, 38 long.
If my eyes were bad I’d feel different about Marlins as they scope easily.
I don’t dislike Marlins but I prefer the Winchester 92’s and 94’s. I’ve got mixed emotions about the 336 35 Remington but I have a nice 141 Remington in the 35. Didn’t care for the 44 Marlin, so that one didn’t hurt my feelings especially as I well over doubled my money actually close to tripled my money for a rifle I didn’t use.
Happy as a clam with a Browning B-92 in 44 and would love to have a 357 in the Browning, but prices are up there on the 357’s.
I’ve got a Rossi SS 357 and one in 44 with the 16” barrel that I need to do the “Rossi refinements” on, and then I’m good. Reducing my stock of firearms, giving my boys a few, set some aside for the grandkids. Well just becoming more interested in “fun” guns rifles in 22LR and 32, 38 long.
If my eyes were bad I’d feel different about Marlins as they scope easily.
Somewhere, in an alternate universe, the Savage Arms Company brought out a small-bore rifle based on the 99 action, and the Savage 45 was adopted by the US military. I'm not sure I'd want to live in that universe, but it would be nice if we could open up some lines of exchange!