35/30 amazes me
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CZ93X62
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That was the deciding factor for me a few years ago, too. The 35/30 has fascinated me for a long time, but the die set was almost 3X the cost of the RCBS Cowboy Die Set in 38/55 M&B.
FWIW, the 38/55 and the Lee 250 grain FP will be the first of the deer-caliber rifles to get the Unleaded Cast Bullet test drives with the Rotometal alloy discussed herein. 44/40 WCF will figure highly as well. I think the acronym "UCB" should be applied to this sub-species of poured projectiles.
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Glaciers
Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
Well AE Winchesters look like they should be jinxed. Can't warm up to them. Winchesters are a great carry gun. If you want a scope get a Marlin or Savage. Speaking of Savage in 358, that's a combination that can't be beat.
Full disclosure, I own trapper Winchester 94AE - 30-30 and it's a sweet gun. But only that one, and it's kept in a different cabinet away from the real Winchesters. All the pre 64's might get ideas and cause the AE to rust or something worse.
Glaciers
Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
I was going to hunt up a 94 to have JES rebore to 35/30-30 but I already have two 141's and a Marlin in 35 Rem, so why. Still looking for a 94, but, JES can rebore it to a 38-55 with a .376 barrel. Got enough of the wild ones, being able to buy a box of ammo off the shelf has it's advantages.
CZ93X62
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I have owned many more Marlin leverguns than Winchesters. Around here Marlins have always been easier to find and cheaper when found. For darn sure, the Marlins are easier to field-strip and clean. Just my two cents.
So, if a 35/30 JES rebore becomes a thing I cannot live without--chances are that a Marlin 336 in 30/30 WCF will be the foundation element. Certainly not my present 336, which lays Lymans #311291 and #311041 disturbingly close to 1" 5-shotters at 100 yards. A well-used & mechanically-sound 336 in 30/30 would get the nod. I am VERY reluctant to take tools to rifles that shoot well and are otherwise inoffensive. My flatband Win 94 only was converted from 25/35 to 38/55 due to a ringed chamber. And the 38/55 is a more useful cartridge by accident than the 25/35 ever was on purpose, cast or jacketed. In its 38/55 persona, it will likely never see a j-word bullet. It hasn't in its 6 years, so far. And a good 30/30 is nice to have around, as well. It might be the best 30 caliber cast bullet cartridge in existence.
ETA--having a 35 Remington would cause me to question the need for a 35/30 as well.
So, if a 35/30 JES rebore becomes a thing I cannot live without--chances are that a Marlin 336 in 30/30 WCF will be the foundation element. Certainly not my present 336, which lays Lymans #311291 and #311041 disturbingly close to 1" 5-shotters at 100 yards. A well-used & mechanically-sound 336 in 30/30 would get the nod. I am VERY reluctant to take tools to rifles that shoot well and are otherwise inoffensive. My flatband Win 94 only was converted from 25/35 to 38/55 due to a ringed chamber. And the 38/55 is a more useful cartridge by accident than the 25/35 ever was on purpose, cast or jacketed. In its 38/55 persona, it will likely never see a j-word bullet. It hasn't in its 6 years, so far. And a good 30/30 is nice to have around, as well. It might be the best 30 caliber cast bullet cartridge in existence.
ETA--having a 35 Remington would cause me to question the need for a 35/30 as well.
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John,
I do have one 94AE, bought it from the Win/USRAC Rep more then 30yrs ago. It's a .44Mag with a 20inch bbl. They were a Special Production Run for the BIG 5 Sporting Goods chain. Which also happens to also be the largest retailer of footwear in the State. Weird
The 94AE in .44Mag has a .429dia bbl and a long throat. So it will chamber the #429421 But won't feed it from the magazine, too long. Still it shoots very accurately. Scoped it when I got it. Put 5rds of the #429244GC into 2 1/4" at 100yrds, once. Otherwise it's 2 3/4 -3" at 100yrds.
Of course those were 35year eyes.
Never malfunctioned once. Only bullet the won't feed are the Keith SWC from either Lyman or RCBS, just too long.
My favorite bullets are the Lyman #429244GC, #429667 or N.O.E. 432-240-RF, a TL design. That last is FANTASTIC, either tumble-lube 45/45/10 from WLL or PC'ed with Eastwood Squirrel Grey.
And My Cowboy Shooting Buddy can get 10 rounds into his Win 94AE Trapper, when seated to crimp on the ogive.
I do have one 94AE, bought it from the Win/USRAC Rep more then 30yrs ago. It's a .44Mag with a 20inch bbl. They were a Special Production Run for the BIG 5 Sporting Goods chain. Which also happens to also be the largest retailer of footwear in the State. Weird
The 94AE in .44Mag has a .429dia bbl and a long throat. So it will chamber the #429421 But won't feed it from the magazine, too long. Still it shoots very accurately. Scoped it when I got it. Put 5rds of the #429244GC into 2 1/4" at 100yrds, once. Otherwise it's 2 3/4 -3" at 100yrds.
Of course those were 35year eyes.
Never malfunctioned once. Only bullet the won't feed are the Keith SWC from either Lyman or RCBS, just too long.
My favorite bullets are the Lyman #429244GC, #429667 or N.O.E. 432-240-RF, a TL design. That last is FANTASTIC, either tumble-lube 45/45/10 from WLL or PC'ed with Eastwood Squirrel Grey.
And My Cowboy Shooting Buddy can get 10 rounds into his Win 94AE Trapper, when seated to crimp on the ogive.
JWFilips
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I have both; a 1960's Marlin 336 in 35 Rem that my Dad bought that for me for my first Hunting rifle in 1965 and My oldest Nephew's 1970 issue Marlin 336 in 30-30 Win that his Dad bought for him as his first hunting rifle in 1976! (He gifted me that a few years ago when he gave up hunting) Both are excellent shooters with cast if the bullets are fat enough.
I also have a Savage 340 in 30 -30 which has been customized and shoots cast extremely well. It s one of my favorite Target guns.
In the future I may entertain JES making the Marlin 336 30-30 into a 35-30! Just to have something different.
When and If I take that step I sure do understand that getting the dies are going to be expensive!
Heck, You getting a gun rebored to a fairly unique caliber......Easy to realize that making the cartridge is going to cost more!
I also have a Savage 340 in 30 -30 which has been customized and shoots cast extremely well. It s one of my favorite Target guns.
In the future I may entertain JES making the Marlin 336 30-30 into a 35-30! Just to have something different.
When and If I take that step I sure do understand that getting the dies are going to be expensive!
Heck, You getting a gun rebored to a fairly unique caliber......Easy to realize that making the cartridge is going to cost more!
