A small rant

Rockydoc

Well-Known Member
Fiver, you could be pimpin around your neighborhood with this "long hood" '85 Toronado,
low miles and it runs for only $2500.
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Jon, I thought those came with a 455cu in V8. Five liters is 305cu in. 455 cu in is 7.49 liters.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I've been looking for a small runabout type rig for some months. Today I spotted a 99 Ranger with 140K, 4wd, cap, not much rust for $2K about 1.25 hrs away. I called within the 1st hour. Was on my way and the nice lady called back and advised it had sold. I'd guess not more than 1.5 hours passed!

While some folks can seemingly keep the salt at bay, let me show you what happens when you don't. Most of this, in fact all of it other than the hood, was hidden under plastic body panels and some artfully glued on aluminum flashing covered in multiple layers of spray on undercoating when I bought it about 3 years back for $1500. The other side is just as nice. It still has under 135K on it! OTOH, it's getting lighter every day...burb.jpg
 

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
P&P,
Here you go, $4500 for a 1985 F-350 with fairly low miles and in pretty good condition.
I have no idea about the reliability of the 6.9L Diesel?

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Yeah $4500 not $16,000
And 109K miles, not 16K
 
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fiver

Well-Known Member
the Bronco is heading that direction, but it's 30 years old.
i keep thinking about buying the replacement panels and buying a mig welder, but then i'd want it painted, and i know at some point it's probably gonna hit a tree or a fence or a rock.
plus i know for 100% certain it's gonna get more tree/brush type pin striping, and have the under carriage washed off in a creek somewhere.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
If I ever get something pretty much rust free, it's getting Fluid Filmed. If I got a brand new one, which will never happen, I'd use cosmoline. The F350 and GMC 2500 both need some panels and judicious plastic work. Paint? You'd be amazed what you can do with some decent prep work and some not too expensive paint. I don't care if it doesn't look "factory", I just want something acceptable for work vehicles. The whole thing up here is figuring out a way to wash the sand and salt out of the body cavities and frame. Channel frames are far easier than boxed frames in that regard.
 

JonB

Halcyon member
Jon, I thought those came with a 455cu in V8. Five liters is 305cu in. 455 cu in is 7.49 liters.
Google tells me they made the Gen 3 Toronado (1979-1985) with choice of:
252 cu in Buick V6
or 307 cu in Oldsmobile V8
or 350 cu in Oldsmobile V8
or 350 cu in Oldsmobile diesel V8
 

Rockydoc

Well-Known Member
Google tells me they made the Gen 3 Toronado (1979-1985) with choice of:
252 cu in Buick V6
or 307 cu in Oldsmobile V8
or 350 cu in Oldsmobile V8
or 350 cu in Oldsmobile diesel V8
I don’t know what year model it was but my dad had one with a 455cu in V8 front wheel drive with a flat floor, no hump or center console.
Maybe it was a different Generation?
 

Rockydoc

Well-Known Member
Yes, they were earlier models.
The last year for the 455 was 1977
Yeah, the sounds about right. I remember I borrowed it from him one time when I had my right leg in a cast from a ski injury. I could put my right leg over where there was no center console, just a flat floor, and drove with my left leg.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I don’t know what year model it was but my dad had one with a 455cu in V8 front wheel drive with a flat floor, no hump or center console.
Maybe it was a different Generation?
That's the old one from the early 6That's the old one from the early 6Toronado_66(102).jpg0's. Front wheel drive too I think. Lemme find a picture-Toronado_66(102).jpg
 
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Rockydoc

Well-Known Member
The Oldsmobile Toronado and Cadillac El Dorado of that era were first cousins, built on the same platform and powertrain.
Good Show Bret!
 

CWLONGSHOT

Well-Known Member
Some years back I found a '65 Toronado with a 425 Rocket wedge. Sitting in a yard.
I stopped a couple times no one home.
The following year I found someone home. The Car was not for sale. It belonged to mans boy who went to Desert Storm... and didnt come home. :(

That car is there today, same place rusting away.

CW
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
There's a great Hollywood chase scene in the first Terminator movie that utilizes the front wheel drive Cadillac El Dorado.


AND Ithaca model 37 shotguns !


Many of those "old boats" would SCOOT in real life too.

My step-mother had a Buick Riviera, with the sleek, boat-tail roof-to-deck transition and that was beastly heavy. All the same, she got picked up doing 140 mph in it round about the time it was new. SOMEHOW, she didn't even get ticketed. As the story goes, the officer was so impressed at the speed it would get, and that a "lady driver" was handling it so well that he let her slide. She really WAS a great lady too, but "lady" didn't always come to mind mid-bar-brawl or when egged on by some punk with a souped up ride at a traffic light.
 

L Ross

Well-Known Member
My Muskie fishing car was an early 70's Buick Electra wagon with a 455. The seats folded down to give us 9 feet of cargo space. The rear window electrically went into the roof, and the tail gate electrically retracted into the floor. What an awesome fishin' wagon. Pulled a boat better'n most trucks.
 

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
I had a 1969 Buick La Sabre with the high compression 350. It didn't have the cubic inches of the 455 and it demanded high octane gasoline, but man did it make some power.
With the correct (read that as expensive) fuel and the timing set accordingly, it was rocket.
 

Rockydoc

Well-Known Member
I have had two Buick Rivieras in my past, both new.
The first was a 1964 model, I bought it in the spring semester of my senior year in dental school. When you are about to get a DR. in front of your name you can get more credit than you can handle. I felt like a big shot in that car after my then current car a 4 year old third hand Chevy. I got married a year later and discovered I couldn't afford a wife and a big car payment. The wife was newer so I kept her and traded the '64 Riviera down to a used '63 Buick Special.

The second was a 1990 Riviera with the 3.8 V6 transverse mounted engine driving the front wheels. That was one of my favorite cars of all time. It had a transmission that coasted when I took my foot off the gas pedal rather than decelerating. It would get as much as 33 miles per gallon when cruising the interstates.

Over the years I have had several Buicks and I liked them a lot.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
First half of my senior year in HS I had a Buick Super Rivera (that meant four door hard top with the Roadmaster engine) three tone, black, red and yellow. One speed transmission, Dynaflow, with torque converter and 120+ top end. Fun ride till I wrapped it around a telephone pole. Of course gasoline then was $.23.9 a gallon and it got about 9 MPG.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
I had a 1969 Buick La Sabre with the high compression 350. It didn't have the cubic inches of the 455 and it demanded high octane gasoline, but man did it make some power.
With the correct (read that as expensive) fuel and the timing set accordingly, it was rocket.
I learned to drive on Dad's 1967 Buick Le Sabre. IIRC, engine size was 340 cubic inches. Sadly, only a two barrel. Back then speed limits were 70 mph. It had no problem doing the 90 mph, we commonly drove at. Speeding tickets were so rare I've never had the pleasure.