An .03-A3 followed me home!

Charles Graff

Moderator Emeritus
The bullets with time "welded" to the brass case. Causing pressure spikes.
CW
Nope....Google told you wrong. The internet is loaded with experts who are anything but. I guess, I could remind you that four days ago, you didn't know your 03-A3 from a hole in the ground and I have been shooting and loading 03/O3A3s for over 60 years. I didn't learn what I know from the internet. But I will just skip that reminder. Onward and upward!
 

CWLONGSHOT

Well-Known Member
Nope....Google told you wrong. The internet is loaded with experts who are anything but. I guess, I could remind you that four days ago, you didn't know your 03-A3 from a hole in the ground and I have been shooting and loading 03/O3A3s for over 60 years. I didn't learn what I know from the internet. But I will just skip that reminder. Onward and upward!
Point taken, But Remember few of us are as "ignorant" as we may faine. I very much appreciate the lessons. I surely did get allot of information. Dont for get we are both providing information on the internet. :rofl:
 
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RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Really dislike the term "ignorant" for being "unlearned". Wikipedia is probably the most wrong reference available. The reason? Anyone can write anything if you join. All you need is one reference, and it may be wrong! Then if you pay them, they will lock the page so none can correct it.
 

waco

Springfield, Oregon
Well. I’ve decided to shoot my LM ‘03 this weekend. I have 20 pieces of new WW .30-06 brass that I FL sized, primed with CCI LRP, charged with 17.5gr of SR4759, and seated a sized and lubed 312299 just out far enough to engrave the nose of the bullet. 2500+ lube and sized to .311”. I’ll probably just shoot at 50 yards but I’ll let you guys know how it goes. Shoot. We might even make a video.
 

Charles Graff

Moderator Emeritus
Point taken, But Remember few of us are as "ignorant" as we may faine. I very much appreciate the lessons. I surely did get allot of information. Dont for get we are both providing information on the internet. :rofl:
Help me to understand. Why would anybody faine/pretend ignorance? That is way beyond my ability to understand. Call me old fashion, but I take everybody at their word and respond in like measure.
 

CWLONGSHOT

Well-Known Member
Would it be easier and more honest to say, Guys tell me what you know about this rifle. Folks will be happy to do that.
Its not about honesty or dis honesty. There was zero mallace.
I did exactly that! I said it in written and spoken word. I even said "Of coarse I know what it is" in the video.

If you "tell" someone something you get only a few reactions. If you ASK you get much more. Most folks will not challenge that and will let you go on with what you think you know. (Greater generation)
Some will challange the coment to correct or to show what they think they know. (Newer generations)
We do not have much if that here and its quite refreshing. Its human nature for good folks to help someone asking for it, especially when they dont proclaim any information.
I have more than a few posts here asking for such telling what I already know either go un answered or only tempted after further prompting by subsequent my comments.
CW
 
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Charles Graff

Moderator Emeritus
Its not about honesty or dis honesty. There was zero mallace.
I did exactly that! I said it in written and spoken word. I even said "Of coarse I know what it is" in the video.

If you "tell" someone something you get only a few reactions. If you ASK you get much more. Most folks will not challenge that and will let you go on with what you think you know. (Greater generation)
Some will challange the coment to correct or to show what they think they know. (Newer generations)
We do not have much if that here and its quite refreshing. Its human nature for good folks to help someone asking for it, especially when they dont proclaim any information.
I have more than a few posts here asking for such telling what I already know either go un answered or only tempted after further prompting by subsequent my comments.
CW
OK, I get what your are doing. I guess it is a Texas thing, but truth telling or non-truth telling has nothing to do with malice, it has to do with character. In my world, one should not have to read the find print or intuit anything to know what a fellow wants. You look them in the eye, ask a straight question and expect a straight answer. Circumlocution/indirect speech and playing hide the ball with words, does not work for me. I won't bite again. Best of luck in all that comes your way.
 
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RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
I have noticed this quite a bit since the internet became available. A Texan (or Southerner) and a New England Yankee writing back and forth sometimes don't communicate very well because of word choice. And there is no "eye to eye" on computers, nor body language to help things out.
 

CWLONGSHOT

Well-Known Member
I have noticed this quite a bit since the internet became available. A Texan (or Southerner) and a New England Yankee writing back and forth sometimes don't communicate very well because of word choice. And there is no "eye to eye" on computers, nor body language to help things out.
100% Ric! (Altho it has little to do with ones location) There is no hand shakes no seeing feelings or reading the communications.
Another comment I might ad is the good lord gave us each two eyes and two ears to better see and hear. Yet only one mouth. He wants us to watch a d listen more than talk. I am simply trying to engage with more folks. Case in point, whats my last video you responded to! ?

I am truly, Very sorry you take it that way Charles. It does bother me that your upset with it.
Its not a game, its human nature, every situation is different when ya dont get all expressed above different tacts emerge.

Ill also add that everyone looses, when taking your tact, as this place is nothing if its not an exchange of like minded people. Expressing there knowledge and experiences and learning from one another.
CW
 
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Charles Graff

Moderator Emeritus
I have noticed this quite a bit since the internet became available. A Texan (or Southerner) and a New England Yankee writing back and forth sometimes don't communicate very well because of word choice. And there is no "eye to eye" on computers, nor body language to help things out.
You are 100% correct and I have encountered this many times in my journey through life. The cultural difference is very different, and culture is the rules by which we play life. The people of the North and traditional people of the South are indeed very different. My people came to Jamestown in 1622 and from there moved into Georgia, Tennessee, Louisiana, Mississippi and then to Texas in 1840. My people have a very firm code on keeping our word, telling the truth and doing what we believe to be right. Folks with others histories have their own understanding of truth, lies, right, wrong, honesty and dishonesty. My people, tell the truth and keep our word, even when it is not in our best interest to do so. Such things hold ultimate value for us. The idea of using words to manipulate people is abhorrent to folks like me. That may be OK and human nature is some places, but it is neither OK or human nature in my world. At times, on these internet boards, I commit the "sin of assumption" and assume that folks share my same cultural values. I should not do that.

I recognize this cultural difference is at play in this thread. I will be 79 in two weeks and have one foot in the grave. I see no need to be anybody but who I am. My son and daughter married multi-generational Texans, they live here and their children were born here and so it continues. I will go out of this world, just as I came into it. God bless Texas and Dixie forever!!

I wish the original poster well, but we ain't never going to "gee and haw". I will never leave Texas again, so I won't die among folks with strange ways. My spirit might not be able to find it way back to Texas again, where my bones will be placed with generations of my folks.
 
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RBHarter

West Central AR
An example . A 30-30 is all the rifle a deer hunter will ever need .
The guys from Pennsylvania to Ohio and south to Louisiana and back to the Atlantic will agree in Spades . The guy from Maine , where deer may be hunted with a 25 ACP , think it's a bit much but fine if you need a repeater . Any where regarded as The West that's not in a coastal range regards it as rather anemic , it is when you're looking at the likes of a western mulie that can go 500# on the hoof and shots are often 250 yd ....... Common ground , well known cartridge , failure to communicate .......
 

waco

Springfield, Oregon
Shot the 03 today. Dismal results lol. The box of ammo I used was stuff that was already loaded up and just happen to fit the chamber and had the right low pressure. NOE 312299 with 17.5gr of SR4759, two full grains below starting charge according to Lyman cast book number four. These were plain base, sized and lubed with 2500 at .310"
Distance was only 50 yards. I have very limited experience using receiver sights and I feel the load was too light. some of the holes in the target showed some signs of yaw. I will post a vid tomorrow. I was happy with the rifle otherwise. I plan on making a video series of this rifle showing my progress in working up an accurate load. I plan on testing a few different bullets and H4895 powder as well as the before mentioned 4759. Trying to keep pressure low and safe. I might switch to GC bullets as well just to help the cause. I was using a black 5" bull as a target designed for 100 yards(Jim's design) Maybe JW could suggest a better target for my purpose? It's an older Lyman sight. You will see it up close when I post the vid. At this point I'm just happy the rifle shot and functioned as it should. Accuracy will be hopefully increased with some load development.
 

Glaciers

Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
Walter I absolutely love receiver sites. I can shoot a receiver site about as good a 3 to 9 scope at 100 yards. But the way that works best for me is I put a 6" orange sticky target dot on the target which really makes the front sight standout.
Be looking forward to your progress.
Going to start playing with mine tomorrow with a NEI 220, which I will be PC'd tonight to bump the diameter up for better fit. Nose drops in the bore so it needs a couple of thousandths. Looking forward to that.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I don't think for second that north or south or east or west matters. I have met people from all over the nation and theres absolutely no difference in the number of liars, cheats, straight shooters and people of character no matter where you are from. My belief is there is a difference in the way people present things, but that it's far more related to urban vs rural. The sense of humor also varies across the nation. I'd also opine that the internet is absolutely the very worst place to try and judge people's character. I'll add that especially in places like this one, there are a lot of us that simply cannot speak as plainly as we would prefer to do. It's the price you pay to keep the perpetually indignant whiners happy...oops! Too plainly spoken! ;)
 

Charles Graff

Moderator Emeritus
I don't think for second that north or south or east or west matters. I have met people from all over the nation and theres absolutely no difference in the number of liars, cheats, straight shooters and people of character no matter where you are from. My belief is there is a difference in the way people present things, but that it's far more related to urban vs rural. The sense of humor also varies across the nation. I'd also opine that the internet is absolutely the very worst place to try and judge people's character. I'll add that especially in places like this one, there are a lot of us that simply cannot speak as plainly as we would prefer to do. It's the price you pay to keep the perpetually indignant whiners happy...oops! Too plainly spoken! ;)
I do think that regional culture does make a difference. That, said, Texas has it's fair share of people of low repute. There are many, I would not trust with a $100.00 bill, my wife or my daughter. I worded my post very carefully and referenced "my people and my family". I am well aware of Texan no-goods. No, need to go into detail, but I once served with a Mission Board that was lead and populated with folks from the North. I soon found out that their word meant something, UNTIL there was a change in circumstances that made it to their advantage not to keep their word. I think that is called situational ethics. Their words were written in sand and were good as long as the wind didn't blow to hard. In my world, folks who use words to manipulate/control people are not to be trusted, for they will not stand by anything or anybody, when things get tough. We have a saying down here..."He will do to ride the River with". Sandy word folks need not apply. In every aspect of life, including this board, I try and say what I mean and mean what I say. I am a serious Christian and try very hard to be respectful of others and not abuse others in the way I say things. Yes, it has caused me problems in various ways over the years, but I can look at myself in the mirror and sleep well at night and go to my Maker knowing I did my best to be the kind of person whose word can be trusted. You don't have to read the footnotes to know that I am speaking the truth as I know it to be. In my book "weasel words" and lying are the same thing.
 
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Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I getcha Charles. I've had similar experiences with people from all over the place, the world actually. I think your "regional culture" is probably related to my "urban vs rural". And lets also remember that it tends to depend on a lot of other things. You are among the very, very few attorneys I would ever trust further than his shadow falls, at least from what I've seen of you in the past 20 years or so. Others probably feel the same way about LE, ministers, doctors, whatever. The people we tend to deal with are going to color our opinions.

You know whats really sad though? Ideas like character, morality and ethics are now "old fashioned" and out dated. Now it's "collective think" and "feelings" as opposed to using rational, objective and critical thinking. The ends justify the means, no matter how abhorrent, now more than ever in living memory. Whats the future hold? The pendulum better start swinging the other way soon or we're lost.