An .03-A3 followed me home!

Charles Graff

Moderator Emeritus
Bret....I agree with you. The world we now live in is a pretty scary place as far as morality, character and ethics go. I keep buying Lotto tickets, so I can buy a ranch down here, large enough to keep the rest of the world out. Well, I will need a few people to do the work, cook my meals and "Bring me a bottle when I am dry." Until they actually do seal the Border, such folks are readily available down here. If such happens that I can buy that place, come down, see me and spend a while. We will shoot, eat good steaks and Tex/Mex grub. Consume large amounts of Mexican beer and Kentucky whisky. I know a few like minded folks that will join us. Expect tall tales, good stories which are mostly true and people you can trust. You might see the Confederate First National flag flying and perhaps folks calling hell fire down on the Yankees, but it is all in fun and done to honor you. I might croak on you, but if I do, just put me in the game cooler until the food runs out and then call the Sheriffs office to come and get me. I knew a fellow once who died at a hunting camp in Mexico. His pals wrapped him in a cotton mattress and brought him back to the United States. Trying to deal with Mexican cops and getting a dead body out of Mexico would be a very costly venture.
 

Ian

Notorious member
You guys need to remember that "The world is going to hell, young people are lazy and ignorant, there's no hope for humanity if this continues" has literally been written down by every culture in the world going back to and including Sumerian cuneiform. Somehow, despite our constant regression as a species and the existence of Hitler, Mussolini (sp?), Stalin, Mao, Khan, Al Gore ad nauseam, we have managed to cure polio, compose symphonies, and visit the moon. Things have always been this way and I expect they always will be as long as human beings demonstrate the full spectrum of their nature.
 

Charles Graff

Moderator Emeritus
You guys need to remember that "The world is going to hell, young people are lazy and ignorant, there's no hope for humanity if this continues" has literally been written down by every culture in the world going back to and including Sumerian cuneiform. Somehow, despite our constant regression as a species and the existence of Hitler, Mussolini (sp?), Stalin, Mao, Khan, Al Gore ad nauseam, we have managed to cure polio, compose symphonies, and visit the moon. Things have always been this way and I expect they always will be as long as human beings demonstrate the full spectrum of their nature.
I always heard the world was going to hell in a hand basket. That is what my Grandfather told me. Now you are telling me, it isn't so? Lord have mercy, we have an optimist in the house. Even so I am still buying that ranch if I win the lotto. The human race is starting to grind on me a mite. This after all the years of trying to save their souls from sin and their marriages and kids from all kinds of problems. They are a truculent lot.

BTW I studied Cuneiform and other ancient writing while in Seminary and it still looks like chicken tracks.
 
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Joshua

Taco Aficionado/Salish Sea Pirate/Part-Time Dragon
I think a hunting camp burial in Mexico would be just fine with me.

As to tinned cupronickel bullets, with my professional background I must say that I’m concerned about the use of the words “soldered” and “welded”. I have spent thousands of hours, welding, brazing, soldering, and forging; I fail to see how the brass and the tinned cupronickel bullet achieved a true soldered or welded bond. Had this bond been achieved it would have required enough heat to light off the round.

Now I am in no way saying that these rounds did not create an over pressure situation. In Dick Culver’s CMP article he refers to it as “cold soldered”, but true cold soldering is done with a copper amalgam. It seems that “stuck” would have been a better description. But the folks who had to write up the reports probably didn’t think that “stuck” sounded scientific enough. I’d like to see a modern test report from a destructive metallurgy test lab. What would they call the bonding process that obviously happened between the two metals?
 

Charles Graff

Moderator Emeritus
I think a hunting camp burial in Mexico would be just fine with me.

As to tinned cupronickel bullets, with my professional background I must say that I’m concerned about the use of the words “soldered” and “welded”. I have spent thousands of hours, welding, brazing, soldering, and forging; I fail to see how the brass and the tinned cupronickel bullet achieved a true soldered or welded bond. Had this bond been achieved it would have required enough heat to light off the round.

Now I am in no way saying that these rounds did not create an over pressure situation. In Dick Culver’s CMP article he refers to it as “cold soldered”, but true cold soldering is done with a copper amalgam. It seems that “stuck” would have been a better description. But the folks who had to write up the reports probably didn’t think that “stuck” sounded scientific enough. I’d like to see a modern test report from a destructive metallurgy test lab. What would they call the bonding process that obviously happened between the two metals?
OK, I will bow to superior knowledge on the subject. We will say the bullets were "stuck" or "firmly fixed". Gen. Hatcher wrote of finding some of fired "tin can round" bullets with the case neck still attached and wondered just how much pressure took to do that.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
Electrolysis by dissimilar metals is probably closer to the correct definition of what occurred brass , copper , nickel , steel , lead ....... By themselves or paired in 18 or so duos no problem , trios any of 10 or so the nickel/steel/brass is where the stuff gets weird . Dad was a plumber pipefitter and did a thing as a demo when I was quite young with 3 fittings in a jar with distilled water in a week they were stuck together .
 

Charles Graff

Moderator Emeritus
I think a hunting camp burial in Mexico would be just fine with me.
Likely as not, soon as your pals were gone, the locals would have dug you up, sold what you were wearing and feed the rest to their hogs. Your cadaver would be a resource to them. Waste not, want not. They would not do that with their own, but you would be a pinche Gringo and they have different rules for folks like you.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Electrolysis by dissimilar metals is probably closer to the correct definition of what occurred brass , copper , nickel , steel , lead ....... By themselves or paired in 18 or so duos no problem , trios any of 10 or so the nickel/steel/brass is where the stuff gets weird . Dad was a plumber pipefitter and did a thing as a demo when I was quite young with 3 fittings in a jar with distilled water in a week they were stuck together .
Bingo IMO. I'd call it corrosion binding or galling maybe. Anyone who's ever dealt with steel and aluminum bolted together knows what it's about.
 

Joshua

Taco Aficionado/Salish Sea Pirate/Part-Time Dragon
In 1897 Grandfather was born in a small village on the outskirts of what is today the large town of La Piedad, in the state of Michoacan. It’s on my bucket list it go down there someday. I’ve spent some time in Baja Sur and Baja Norte, but never gotten over to the mainland.

You are correct I will always be seen by some down there as a guero gringo.

In Hawaii as a Haole.

In Japan I don’t know what the word is, but they cross their arms and won’t let you into their restaurants.

And whatever you do don’t order an omelette in Paris before 10am. They’ve got a word for people who do that too.

I’m still gonna keep traveling, no matter what they call me!
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
You guys need to remember that "The world is going to hell, young people are lazy and ignorant, there's no hope for humanity if this continues" has literally been written down by every culture in the world going back to and including Sumerian cuneiform. Somehow, despite our constant regression as a species and the existence of Hitler, Mussolini (sp?), Stalin, Mao, Khan, Al Gore ad nauseam, we have managed to cure polio, compose symphonies, and visit the moon. Things have always been this way and I expect they always will be as long as human beings demonstrate the full spectrum of their nature.
And generally, across history, great calamities befall cultures who ignore the past and the lessons we should have learned. While humanity survives, it's generally at the cost of a large segment of said cultures lives during the war, famine, etc that they suffer.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
In 1897 Grandfather was born in a small village on the outskirts of what is today the large town of La Piedad, in the state of Michoacan. It’s on my bucket list it go down there someday. I’ve spent some time in Baja Sur and Baja Norte, but never gotten over to the mainland.

You are correct I will always be seen by some down there as a guero gringo.

In Hawaii as a Haole.

In Japan I don’t know what the word is, but they cross their arms and won’t let you into their restaurants.

And whatever you do don’t order an omelette in Paris before 10am. They’ve got a word for people who do that too.

I’m still gonna keep traveling, no matter what they call me!
IIRC correctly (it's been 30 some years) the Japanese word might be "gai-jin" or something along those lines. I think it translates to something like "round eyed sob". Smokeys wife could tell us. And no, they won't let you into their restaurants, businesses and especially not near their young women, not that a proper young Japanese woman of good breeding would so much as look at a a young non-Japanese man. Been there, tried that, got shot down in flames! What an angel she was though!
 
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Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Bret....I agree with you. The world we now live in is a pretty scary place as far as morality, character and ethics go. I keep buying Lotto tickets, so I can buy a ranch down here, large enough to keep the rest of the world out. Well, I will need a few people to do the work, cook my meals and "Bring me a bottle when I am dry." Until they actually do seal the Border, such folks are readily available down here. If such happens that I can buy that place, come down, see me and spend a while. We will shoot, eat good steaks and Tex/Mex grub. Consume large amounts of Mexican beer and Kentucky whisky. I know a few like minded folks that will join us. Expect tall tales, good stories which are mostly true and people you can trust. You might see the Confederate First National flag flying and perhaps folks calling hell fire down on the Yankees, but it is all in fun and done to honor you. I might croak on you, but if I do, just put me in the game cooler until the food runs out and then call the Sheriffs office to come and get me. I knew a fellow once who died at a hunting camp in Mexico. His pals wrapped him in a cotton mattress and brought him back to the United States. Trying to deal with Mexican cops and getting a dead body out of Mexico would be a very costly venture.
Keep trying Charles. I've got my 342 acres of what you are seeking, only its way, way north of the Mason-Dixon line. You'd be welcome here too, but I'm afraid my entertainment would run more to root beer, hamburgers and maybe some poutine! Spices in this neck of the woods consist of salt, pepper and garlic. "Mexican" is tacos out of a box or Taco Bell. I know, I know, Al Paine tells me that's not even food fit for human consumption, but it's the best we gots!

In all honesty, I looked at moving to Texas or Arizona some years back. I couldn't find anything like what I have here. It was either 3 acres and a house or 3000 acres and nothing in between. Weird!
 

Ian

Notorious member
I always heard the world was going to hell in a hand basket.

If that were true, it would have arrived centuries (if not millennia) ago, wouldn't you think? I'm not really an optimist and the older I get the more disgusted and cynical I get with my immediate society, but I do study a little history and realize that in the larger scheme of things, the world tends to right itself and the doom and gloom is merely the bitter musings of tired old men.
 

Charles Graff

Moderator Emeritus
If that were true, it would have arrived centuries (if not millennia) ago, wouldn't you think? I'm not really an optimist and the older I get the more disgusted and cynical I get with my immediate society, but I do study a little history and realize that in the larger scheme of things, the world tends to right itself and the doom and gloom is merely the bitter musings of tired old men.
Well, I didn't say it was true, just said it was what I always heard. BTW: whole post was an attempt at wry humor. Don't take anything I say on the subject as anything but wry humor. The ultimate future of humanity is not in my hands but God is running the show and my faith tells me He will win in the end. I will cop to being a tired old man.
 

Charles Graff

Moderator Emeritus
Keep trying Charles. I've got my 342 acres of what you are seeking, only its way, way north of the Mason-Dixon line. You'd be welcome here too, but I'm afraid my entertainment would run more to root beer, hamburgers and maybe some poutine! Spices in this neck of the woods consist of salt, pepper and garlic. "Mexican" is tacos out of a box or Taco Bell. I know, I know, Al Paine tells me that's not even food fit for human consumption, but it's the best we gots!

In all honesty, I looked at moving to Texas or Arizona some years back. I couldn't find anything like what I have here. It was either 3 acres and a house or 3000 acres and nothing in between. Weird!

Sounds like you have a good place to be. The food however sounds somewhat bland. I even had to look up poutine, never heard of that before. I am sometimes amazed at what humans can survive on in regards to food.
 

quicksylver

Well-Known Member
Waco choose a bullet and keep it around 1600 fps, that rifle will shoot lights out, other sugestions use a 50 foot pistol target , staple a pieceof 8.x 11 above the target , raise your sights so the inpact is in the paper adjust windage between 5 shot groups so they spread across the paper I will post groups of some of my loads
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