"Elvis" 61 grain in the AR 15 thread

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I think you got it, Emmett.

If all else fails about 2.5-3 grains of pistol powder makes a really nice .22 LR substitute for the AR.
I’ve thought about 22lr velocities in my AR a few times. Will those loads cycle my AR? Harles
 

Mitty38

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4895 or Ramshorn TAC were next on my list. Which ever I can aquire. For my Elvis load
If I can't get something I am satisfied with using H335.
Then If that don't work it is on to 4064. Going to try my best to get a fully functioning gun, with no more then 4 MOA with the "Elvis"
After that if no satisfaction I will be calling the project a loss. Then reverting to a .22 lr-ish red dot load that does not cycle.
 
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Mitty38

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Ok guys got 100 or so 61 grain Elvis cast up.
Quite a learning curve for a Newberg like me.
But we managed to get about 2 out of 3 to turn out. I will get better just have to spend some more time with the mould.
So weighed them and all came in between 59.5 and 60 grain. Now just have to figure out how I want to powder coat these little devils. IMG_20210307_024404884~2.jpg
 
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Mitty38

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Can't measure them right now so have no clue if they cast at .224 or not. My calipers have disappeared. :(
Will update when able.
 
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Mitty38

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I noticed some slight wrinkling on the ends, but most bases, and bearing surfaces look good. Was late when I finished and posted, so going to go thru them once more.
 
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Mitty38

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Just found out a scale can be a great culling tool. Especially on small bullets.
Forces you to look at each bullet One by one.
Plus in this case....anything below 59.6 had a appreciable wrinkle or void, or incomplete base. Any thing over 59. 9 had flash on the base, or was cast with the mould partly open.

Way more bullets cast then I thought. Wife was board so she counted all the culls. 187 culls.

79 usable bullets. Between 59.6 and 59.8.
Now I am sure some of those culls would have been just fine, but at this point only the most consistent and visually appealing made the grade.

So 79 bullets in a butter tub waiting for the dehumidifier to get the humidity down to 60. Then dump in the powder and swirrel, swirrel.;)
 
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Mitty38

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Was fun standing those up, but for this project we are taking no chances.
 

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Mitty38

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Ok, new learning experience. Apparently, I should have put the . 22s on the bottom shelf and set my thermostat a little lower.
I just slumped about 20 of my bullets, good thing I checked them for diameter after coating or I may not have caught it. These little pills are continually giving me new experiences, and no nessesarely ones I have been looking forward to.:(
 

Ian

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That should tell you your oven is running about 190 degrees too hot. Convection is the way to go. A contact thermometer and DVOM to tell what's really going in in there helps too.
 

Mitty38

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Ye, I am going to have to at least break down and buy myself one of those Hornady probe type pot thermometers.
Seems like every little thing just becomes more critical when the caliber gets smaller.
But I am not giving up. Come hell or high water I am going to get this.
 
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fiver

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laughing.
they do make you learn the word frustration don't they?
but you'll get it, and it'll help with the other calibers too.
 

Joshua

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Ok, new learning experience. Apparently, I should have put the . 22s on the bottom shelf and set my thermostat a little lower.
I just slumped about 20 of my bullets, good thing I checked them for diameter after coating or I may not have caught it. These little pills are continually giving me new experiences, and no nessesarely ones I have been looking forward to.:(
Did the bullets that slumped happen directly under the element? While I do not disagree with Ian that convection will eliminate this problem. There are other solutions to the effects of these cheap radiant infrared quartz ovens. My chamber cost me nothing but time and has resolved this direct heating problem.

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Ian

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Likely the direct heat thing. Our dishwasher will melt plastic spoons but only if they are put in the rear silverware basket which rests directly over a heating element. You can think a way around the problem if you know what's causing it. My solution was get a brand-new B&D convection rotisserie oven from wally mart for $40 on clearance in the first place so I could also Durabake silencer coatings on the spinamathingy and I have never had uneven heat or slumping issues. The thermostat holds temperature well and is fairly accurate.
 

Mitty38

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Did the bullets that slumped happen directly under the element? While I do not disagree with Ian that convection will eliminate this problem. There are other solutions to the effects of these cheap radiant infrared quartz ovens. My chamber cost me nothing but time and has resolved this direct heating problem.

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Yep they did.
Looks like you made your own convection oven.
I can do that!
Thanks