Fluid film

RBHarter

RBHarter

West Central AR
From a fairly young age I've thought that the war on drugs would be better fought via legalization and taxation . If its half the thrill seekers are done right out of the gate . I mean it worked for booze .

Of course I've always had a slightly different view of the world .

I'm one of those 1/10,000 people that reacts to certain faux sweeteners the same as alcohol . So 3-4 beers or 2-3 diet Pepsi's and I'm on my way . The sweeteners go flat for me before I get to 10 ft tall and don't seem to effect my coordination . Forgot about that yesterday when I decided to have a 50/50 Dr Pepper for lunch instead of half sweet tea . I had a really pleasant afternoon though .

We all have a vice and a place we seek comfort , sometimes it changes with time . I count myself fortunate to get hung over so easy , my only drug experience to have been bad , and to be able to get hammered on diet soda . I'm also glad that I can find solitude at the bench and in the field .
 
Bret4207

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
The "hemp" of long ago is not the hemp/pot we have now. The stuff that was used to make rope isn't the stuff people want to grow now. The whole "hemp is the answer to everything" campaign is just an attempt to normalize pot use, just as the whole effort to normalize other abhorrent behaviors (think grooming children to accept being sexually abused) is just a step in a bigger plan. If this is too political, fine, delete it, but look around you today, things are truly horrifying in many areas.
 
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Eagle223usa

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Anyhow, I like the smell of fluid film, it reminds me of cosmoline on a classic Mauser! Sorry if I brought this back on topic! Fluid film is a necessity in Pennsylvania! I'm just not emotionally prepared to handle a rust incident again. I sprayed so much of that on my 2018 Z71 that my mechanic, also a gun guy called my truck "The Mauser Edition".
 
358156 hp

358156 hp

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Bret4207 said:
I disagree with your theory on stress. I think we (the collective "we") are just wussified wimps that expect our lives to turn out like they do for the protagonists in movies. We are spoiled, self centered morons that don't want to do a bit more than absolutely necessary but that want to be rewarded far beyond our actual value. You look at the preceding generations that went through WW1 or 2 or the Depression, or back earlier when there was no "social safety net", where starvation was a real thing and a cut or cold could mean death for your kids. Stressed? Yeah, because we lack perspective when we should be able to appreciate all we have that comes so easily. If we are the most stressed, it's because we are weak in mind, weak in character, weak in faith, weak in willingness to actually work hard. And we aren't very darn conscious of all we do have.

Again, the "we" is the US as a society, not the individual, a small percentage of which don't fit my description. OTOH, yeah, we seek relief from reality! Doesn't matter how, we seek it and many seek it through harmful ways. I think that is an age old issue.
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Talk with the younger generations. They were taught in school that the baby boomers have stolen all the good jobs, and are deliberately keeping their wages low so we don't have to share our wealth with them. My response to the last one was that he already makes more money than I did at his age, but I kept trying to do more and better work so I could get ahead. I was never interested in being a professional burger flipper. I blame our collective high stress levels on the media and their panic pandering. Everything is a disaster that will wipe out all life on the planet.
 
RicinYakima

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Ballistol was designed to work well in the north of Europe to remove surface moisture, loosen dirt and primer fouling. It doesn't work well in the desert either because the water evaporates and there is nothing left.
 
Bret4207

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
358156 hp said:
Talk with the younger generations. They were taught in school that the baby boomers have stolen all the good jobs, and are deliberately keeping their wages low so we don't have to share our wealth with them. My response to the last one was that he already makes more money than I did at his age, but I kept trying to do more and better work so I could get ahead. I was never interested in being a professional burger flipper. I blame our collective high stress levels on the media and their panic pandering. Everything is a disaster that will wipe out all life on the planet.
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True enough. The wonder of the information age is real, but so is the damage it does to those who can't think critically or see beyond a headline. Sheep man, lots of sheep out there. Actually, comparing humans to sheep is an insult to sheep!
 
Bret4207

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
smokeywolf said:
Never tried Fluid Film before, but y'all convinced me. Bought a half dozen spray cans.

For quite some time I've used either G96, Ballistol or LPS on my tools and toys.
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I would not use Fluid Film on my hand tools. It's great on vehicles undersides or battery posts or things like shovels, rakes, yard carts, stuff like that. But not on wrenches or anything you'll be touching. Certainly not on a gun. It builds a film of wax that doesn't dry a lot and it does not smell pleasant, nor will your hands if you touch it. In body cavities of vehicles, maybe for long term mould storage, stuff like that is where it shines. It's a fair lube too on things like bolts you don't want rusting on.
 
Bret4207

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Ian said:
LPS 2 is pretty close, but Alox-based. Ballistol is useless for preventing rust in a humid environment.
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I used a product called "Boe-Shield" for a while. Allegedly developed by Boeing to keep shiny stuff from becoming rusty stuff. It worked pretty well but even 20 years ago it was very expensive compared to stuff like WD-40, G96, stuff like that. It was nice that it was clear and didn't stain things so it was great for woodworking tools. Haven't seen it in years.

I've yet to find anything that is "perfect" for fighting rust on tools/guns. Grease works best, but you're left with grease all over things. With the waxes you have to contend with a waxy surface and build up. Oils seep and seem to evaporate over time, and many just don't work. If someone has an answer that has experience in a cold, wet environment I'm all ears!!!
 
smokeywolf

smokeywolf

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Haven't actually seen more rust on tools here than in SoCal. Spent most of my life within 10 to 20 miles (as the crow flies) of the Pacific ocean. Within 10 miles you can sometimes smell the salt air.
 
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Petrol & Powder

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Would it be fair to say that Fluid Film is a wax-based product in a carrier as opposed to an oil-based product ?

Cosmoline is a essentially a petroleum grease with a wax component added,
Fluid Film seems to be more a lanolin or wax-based product with a carrier.

Those products appear to be two sides of the same coin. They come at the problem from different angles, but the ultimate goal is the same.

Like Bret4207, I've yet to find that perfect product to prevent rust in all situations but I've found products that work perfectly in some situations.

Preventing ferrous metals from rusting is nothing more than preventing oxygen and water from interacting with that ferrous metal. That typically means placing some type of barrier between the metal and the oxygen. That can be paint, oil, grease, wax, plastic, non-ferrous plating, etc. There is NO SINGLE solution for every situation. You have to match the solution to the situation.
 
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