Handloader Magazine online version/Wolfe Publishing

[oscarflytyer]

Handloader Magazine online version

Their Good Idea Fairy needs to be taken out back and tarred and feathered - imho.

Anyone but me subscribe to the online version of Handloader magazine? If so, thoughts on their new "format?" IMO it is total garbage and completely user UNfriendly. Their other mag versions will work in Chrome, but HL will NOT. Have to use IE. spent 30 min with help desk tonight TRYING to make it all work, finally cobbed my way thru. Only to find that, when you print an article (per their instructions) the load data table do NOT format correctly.

I think I am going to be THAT GUY on a daily basis and complain loudly until some pinhead in charge that makes STUPID decisions calls me back. If nothing else I WILL feel personally better after giving him about all pieces of my mind!

 

[358156 hp]

Don't let them get away with it. You're paying for a service you're not receiving fully. I've seen complaints on other boards about printing issues too.

 

[Rick]

I've never messed with trying the online version but just order the complete year on DVD, 6 magazines per disc. I've got every issue ever published all on DVD. Well almost, this has reminded me that I haven't yet ordered the 2019 disc. If for no other reason than to keep the set complete I should.

 

[RicinYakima]

Me too. I specifically asked to be about printing it in pdf, they said ok. You canNOT print anything, you can't store anything. I'm calling in the morning and trying to cancel everything. And me with every copy of Handload and Rifle from day one!

 

[Rick]

And me with every copy of Handload and Rifle from day one!

Yep, me too. I've got every paper issue thru the late 90's, intermittent issues thru about 2010 but every issue on disc thru 2018. In all honesty they aren't nearly what they used to be. Sure do miss Ken.

 

[RicinYakima]

When Dave Wolfe passed away and the company was sold, they lost a treasure. He started Shooting Times in Peoria, IL and then moved to AZ to start Handloader. Every company since then wants to sell a million copies a month and have nothing in them. Not only Ken Walters, but Al Miller and other old guys. They were not shills for the advertisers.

 

[oscarflytyer]

Me too. I specifically asked to be about printing it in pdf, they said ok. You canNOT print anything, you can't store anything. I'm calling in the morning and trying to cancel everything. And me with every copy of Handload and Rifle from day one!

I am seriously considering cancelling. BUt will call the HD prob 1-2 times a day for a week at least. HD has metrics! And the HD guy told me how to copy/archive the article, and print it. So all that makes zero sense. Same as buying the paper copy. I am paying THEM to print it - that is all. Idea behind electronic is two fold. Save paper/cost, AND I only print what I want! They are morons imo.

btw - thanx. glad to know its not just me!

 

[Rick]

Me too. I specifically asked to be about printing it in pdf, they said ok. You canNOT print anything, you can't store anything. I'm calling in the morning and trying to cancel everything. And me with every copy of Handload and Rifle from day one!

I have never tried printing or storing from online but you can download the DVD's to your computer. You can print from your computer also. I have every issue (from DVD) stored on this computer. I would need to look but it's something like over a gig of storage and searchable across all issues via a keyword search.

 

[Gary]

Handloader Magazine online version

Their Good Idea Fairy needs to be taken out back and tarred and feathered - imho.

Anyone but me subscribe to the online version of Handloader magazine? If so, thoughts on their new "format?" IMO it is total garbage and completely user UNfriendly. Their other mag versions will work in Chrome, but HL will NOT. Have to use IE. spent 30 min with help desk tonight TRYING to make it all work, finally cobbed my way thru. Only to find that, when you print an article (per their instructions) the load data table do NOT format correctly.

I think I am going to be THAT GUY on a daily basis and complain loudly until some pinhead in charge that makes STUPID decisions calls me back. If nothing else I WILL feel personally better after giving him about all pieces of my mind!

It's crap IMO; and if they don't switch back I'll stop my subscription.

 

[oscarflytyer]

^^^Gary - EXACTLY what I told the HD guy. Didn't seem like he really gave a shat, other than wanting to get me off the phone! I told him multiple times to have someone higher up/decision maker to contact me. Again - just wanted me gone.

 

[CWLONGSHOT]

My wife ain’t so good at payin my magazine subs. Guess she just hates them stacked in basement cause she always trying to toss them out!!! So buying more just don’t sit well with her.
So I paid for my own. TWICE I did that online thinking I was getting paper books. Wasted $$ cause I never once read any in line.
I just like to read and reference a magazine.
Like most here computers are new not everything. Fun and Convenient At times. I just like magazines and referring back to them years later when a new caliber is bought. In my case the 327. I’m able to look back into Shooting times and Hand losers for arrivals data and information. Not so good at searching on like. Reminds me I need to renew RIFLE too!

CW

 

[Bret4207]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that's pretty much given up on Handloader/Rifle. There was a time when everything they did was state of the art, technical stuff. Now it's fluff with a little information scattered in the mix. I put the blame on Scoville.

 

[StrawHat]

I used to get Rifle and Handloader magazines. Then they started chasing away the good authors. Then it was all about Scoville. Then I stopped subscribing.

I did buy the combined CDs, issues 1 through sometime in the 1990s, but really can’t say I have read many of the back issues. I am not sure I even have a CD reader anymore.

Kevin

 

[Brad]

I stopped years ago. The writing was no longer of interest to me. It became more about selling stuff for advertisers than real research and expanding the knowledge base.

 

[Hawk]

I tried to download the latest issue and had to login three times.
Then, couldn't download the issue.
I called them Monday and asked WTF and was told they were going broke and we're not allowing full downloads anymore. If you want to download an article, you have to convert it to Word format.
I said it didn't say anythung about the changes when I renewed my subscription last Dec. She said sorry, but she couldn't help me.

 

[oscarflytyer]

I tried to download the latest issue and had to login three times.
Then, couldn't download the issue.
I called them Monday and asked WTF and was told they were going broke and we're not allowing full downloads anymore. If you want to download an article, you have to convert it to Word format.
I said it didn't say anythung about the changes when I renewed my subscription last Dec. She said sorry, but she couldn't help me.

Thanx! THIS is what all I needed to hear! Going to call and cancel my online scrip!

I will keep Loadata. I do actually find that handy, espec for a lot of the off the wall stuff I load for

 

[Bret4207]

Gee, why are you going broke? Could be the fluff articles by writers that don't know a primer from a pimple on their backside!

 

[358156 hp]

I got a bit chastised on another forum for posting my views of magazine writing in general from a business viewpoint. Unfortunately, I upset Ken Howell a bit, but he responded like the true gentleman he truly was, as did John Barsness. It started out in a thread complaining about Handloader & Rifle mags going (slightly) over 50% advertising compared to actual articles and information a few times. Yes, I really did go through a few issues and figure the rough column space taken up by paid ads, versus articles. I've since decided that I don't need to be that analytical. There's some things I just don't need to know.

 

[RicinYakima]

Yep, I talked to them also. The internet is killing the business. People download articles, send them to others over the net for free. So they don't sell magazines. Their intellectual property is being stolen and there is nothing they can do about it. This is their best shot at stopping people from stealing their stuff.

I hate it, don't like it and am an old dinosaur also. Welcome to the new world of on line live-streaming, the death of free TV and newspapers.

 

[Hawk]

I don't share copy write protected articles but I do like to read the magazines on my tablet at the deer lease. Now I can't read them unless I have a WIFI connection and am logged onto their site.
My objection is they charged me for the renewal without notifying me of the changes to the terms of the subscription.