Hodgdon acquires Accurate and Ramshot

fiver

Well-Known Member
but if you don't follow the waste rules you don't import into Europe.
then there's other powders that could be imported but are so spotty on importation that by the time you want to stock up on them they are no longer available.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
I really like Norma powders, but the certification of manufacture is so complex, they don't try very hard
 

Tomme boy

Well-Known Member
Hodgdon does not make ANY powders guys. They are just an importer and slap a label on the can. That is it. EPA has nothing to do with any of the powders going away. It is more the countries that Hodgdon gets them from. EU has very strict rules when it comes to the waste of producing a product. They are 100% worse than our EPA is.
 

Mitty38

Well-Known Member
Yes their primary business is resale...but....
Actually,they make Pyrodex and 777 in their plant they bought off of Goax and in Herington, Kansas. They are the only Manufacturer of black powder in the U.S.
 
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fiver

Well-Known Member
right Tomme.
but the whole thing is now in an even tighter bottleneck.
they will be trying to bring in powders from another direction through their system.
they can't hardly manage what they got now, adding in another 30% isn't gonna smooth out the process.

this is kind of like when Federal bought CCI, CCI primers used to be everywhere here since the plant is just a bit upstate.
now they all get sent off to distribution and scattered about the country, they drive right past my house to get there but never seem to come back now.
accurate is located not too many miles away too, and it was a fairly easy days ride into Montana to get them from the distributor that got them from their headquarters a few miles away.
now [shrug] I'll probably have to drive to Missouri or the like.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
buggy whips I can get.
H-type powders could fall off the face of the planet and it'd have zero effect on my life.
AA-2700 is another matter.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
EPA has nothing to do with any of the powders going away.
Environmental concerns (EPA) and cost of meeting its regulations were the reasons we were told PB and the SR series of powders were discontinued.

Buggy whips have disappeared, let's hope canister smokeless powder doesn't go the same way.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
Yeah, it'll be okay. Still, there is the early discomfiture that such an event causes.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
I had a 79' scout . Tank transmission , A/C , cruise ....... Weighed 100# more than the 4 door Explorer , 2840 on the front end 2100 on the back the explorer was 2810 up front .
 

Ian

Notorious member
Environmental regulations continue to have an effect on powders but I doubt that matters much to availability. The Canadian Universal, Titegroup, and Clays (and some others in that lineup?) are produced with new washing methods and are still good powders still do what we're used to them doing. IMR seems to have made a career out of introducing competitive powders and new rifle powders with numbers none of us can remember and you can bet they will either discontinue or re-formulate some of older powders which have toxic production byproducts.

As long as there is international production, we will be able to get stuff.

I AM worried about Alliant, though. If I can't get RX-7 I'm going to have to switch to Shooter's World SOCOM or the next two slower ones because nothing else is close.
 

358156 hp

At large, whereabouts unknown.
I always thought that it was originally intended as Reloder Prescription #7. I get this cockamamie idea from the cross bars on the tails of the "R"s, suggesting "prescription" (RX). There, I finally said it out loud, after all these years!
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
don't get me started on the IH thing.
it wasn't too many years back that I had at least one of each, except the Traveler.
2 were daily driver Scouts [one a 2 WD convertible] the wife drove the Travelall, and I used one of the trucks as necessary [1/2-3/4 or 1 ton] around the place.
except for the red/white one, it was the one I was always messing about with the engine in trying different parts combinations.
I had a 24' pull behind trailer full of used and new parts for them.
all of them are gone.