Hopefully a 44 mag that will shoot

Will

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image.jpeg Went today and picked up my CVA scout V2 in 44 magnum that I purchased on gunbroker.

So far I'm really pleased with the rifle although I haven't shot it yet.

It has a 22" 1-20" twist barrel that's just under .431 and no tight spots.

The trigger is great. Almost as good as my encore trigger eabco worked on. Definitely better than any handi rifle I have ever shot.

Looks like I've got a bunch of casting to do. I really hope to to a lot of experimenting with this rifle over the summer. Just have to decide on a bullet. I have the 43-255R from accurate, the mihec 434-640 hp, and the Lee 310.
 

Brad

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That rifle should be good. A full charge of H110 and a Fed std primer in new Starline cases are a good place to start.
 

gman

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They are nice little rifles. You are right about the triggers. I was amazed at the trigger on my 35 Remington VII. Good luck with it and report back.
 

Will

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So far the results were disappointing. All I had cast were some 255gr gas checked bullets cast from 50-50 COWW/pure lead. I tried these behind some loads of H110 and 2400.

The 2400 loads shot the best but not good at all. The H110 loads shot worse. The higher the powder charge the more the bullets sprayed all over the target. I'm assuming the alloy is to soft.

I'm going to cast up some of the Lee 310 and mihec 434-640 (Lyman devastator copy). I'm hoping the heavier bullets help.
 
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freebullet

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Sounds like she needs a bit more break in & testing. These are good shooters from everything I've found & my v2 pistol is more accurate than me.

What primers? That h110 might need a mag primer, specially if it's cold.

Could heat treated same bullets for retest.
 

Will

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I plan to try some different things. That's half the fun anyways right?
I never use mag primers with H110 but may have to give it a try. It was spring in December here today 70 deg.
Hopefully I can get caught up on the farm and do some casting soon.
 

Rick

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Switching to CCI 550 cut groups in half in my 357 with H-110. The suggestion to heat treat to around 18 BHN is also a good next step or don't cut the WW with pure. How old & battle worn is the brass? Consistent neck tension is very important.
 

Will

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I think I have the problem figured out now. I took some fired brass and just started a few of my different bullets in the case. Then began clambering each one to give me a max OAL.

The bullets I shot the other day had around a 1/8" jump before hitting rifling.

The good news in the Lee 310gr 44 bullets just barely touch the rifling when seated long in the bottom crimp groove.

I'm gonna try to cast some up and give them a try. I do dread fighting with that mold. It usually gives me fits trying to get good bullets. If it ends up shooting good Tom will get a order from me.
 

shootnlead

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Your experience may be different, but an 1/8" jump has never caused much problem with mine. In the .44 rifles that I have had experience with, I just had to find the right bullet before I got satisfactory groups. That 310gr Lee works well in everything, as far as I have heard. I don't use it, as I have no use for a bullet that weight, but it still has shoots well...and I still have a few on hand.

I have a Marlin that I finally gave up on finding a cast bullet for it...it will be jacketed only, as long as I have it. Got tired of pissing with it...just for the sake of shooting a cast bullet. It will drill the jacketed...kills like hammer of Thor with'em...so that is good enough for me.
 
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Will

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Had some better luck today still not seeing what I would like. I was shooting mainly the Lee 430-310 using H110 and 2400. A couple of the groups were with the 434-640.

Dots are 1". These were shot at 75 yards using mixed brass. New starline brass will be here Friday.
 
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freebullet

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Yes they do. New brass might make that even better(when fire formed & neck sized). Nice shooting.
 
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Brad

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For 75 yards in a Marlin 44 mag that isn't bad. Certainly good enough for deer.

I agree with Keith, you have a couple loads that show some real promise. What was the load for the top row middle two groups?
 

Brad

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Oops, I see it isn't a Marlin. Might be why it shot even that well.
 

Will

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These were shot out of the CVA scout V2.

The left of the center group was shot with 16.5gr 2400 behind the Lee 430-310 lit off by a CCI no. 350 primer
Right of center group was 21gr H110 and the Lee 430-310 CCI no. 350 primer.

Bullets were cast from WW sized in a .4325 die which does nothing but crimp on the gas check and lube the bullet. My Lee mold drops these just under .431. And I'm still using 6-6-6-1 lube.
 

Will

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Freebullet I'm hoping the new starline brass helps. I should have already ordered some but I had a gift card to cabelas I have been waiting to use.
I'm a tight wad and have been waiting on a shipping promotion before ordering.
Also ordered all the necessities for reloading 9mm which I've never done.
 

35 shooter

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I'm sure you'll get it better if you want too, but a couple of those groups are pretty good where they are though.
Sure looks like it's going to be a good shooter for you.

I like the looks of the stocks on the CVA.