Hurricane Harvey
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Pistolero
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Well Paul, many folks drive that road and don't actually SEE anything. I loved Earth Science in the
9th grade, and as a pilot have enjoyed watching land and river forms roll by under me. I look at
the land and the rivers and I see how they flow, and how the rivers have carved the landscape.
Spend half a day flying up a river drainage and you can really see how he water totally rules the
land.
So many people are just oblivious, not really looking at what the earth around them is able
to tell them, if they just pay attention. One of those things is, don't put anything you want to
be "permanent" in the creek or river bottom. This reminds me of my hobby of studying ancient
Roman ruins. Their aquaducts are a real lesson in water flow and terrain. The were masters of
using the terrain, and they had to dodge the river valleys or build a long, expensive bridge, or
sometimes an inverted siphon to cross them. Pay attention topography, it is interesting and
important, too.
As far as the bumper sticker, Ian. Too late, it is a huge industry here.
But, I hope the loss of life is minimized. And perhaps some will learn from this and
not make the same mistake over again.
Bill
9th grade, and as a pilot have enjoyed watching land and river forms roll by under me. I look at
the land and the rivers and I see how they flow, and how the rivers have carved the landscape.
Spend half a day flying up a river drainage and you can really see how he water totally rules the
land.
So many people are just oblivious, not really looking at what the earth around them is able
to tell them, if they just pay attention. One of those things is, don't put anything you want to
be "permanent" in the creek or river bottom. This reminds me of my hobby of studying ancient
Roman ruins. Their aquaducts are a real lesson in water flow and terrain. The were masters of
using the terrain, and they had to dodge the river valleys or build a long, expensive bridge, or
sometimes an inverted siphon to cross them. Pay attention topography, it is interesting and
important, too.
As far as the bumper sticker, Ian. Too late, it is a huge industry here.
But, I hope the loss of life is minimized. And perhaps some will learn from this and
not make the same mistake over again.
Bill
RBHarter
West Central AR
It has always baffled me as to why a homeowner that was flooded wouldn't rebuild on a raised platform . So what what it your house looks silly on a 12' tall foundation if nothing else it makes a great car port . Right , I know old knees and hips . Elevators are expensive and insecure get with the neighbors and do fill ramps ....
I'd rather spend the extra 10k going in than make a claim for it every 2-10 yr
In another 10 yrs according to daddy Al New Orleans will be above sea level anyway so it's sort .......wait it's going the other way .......
Hearts and hopes out to those that did what they could in in all of So Texas.
I'd rather spend the extra 10k going in than make a claim for it every 2-10 yr
In another 10 yrs according to daddy Al New Orleans will be above sea level anyway so it's sort .......wait it's going the other way .......
Hearts and hopes out to those that did what they could in in all of So Texas.
Pistolero
Well-Known Member
A friend lives in Ga, along the coast. Where he lives, it is mandated by building codes that living areas be
12 ft above grade. All homes have big garages downstairs and workshops, with strong pillars and weak,
blow-out walls between them. He has never been flooded in 30 yrs, but if it happens, when they move the cars
out, and take tools upstairs, damage in the garage/ship will be minimal. AC outside unit will be trashed, walls
wrecked, but comparatively cheap.
Bill
12 ft above grade. All homes have big garages downstairs and workshops, with strong pillars and weak,
blow-out walls between them. He has never been flooded in 30 yrs, but if it happens, when they move the cars
out, and take tools upstairs, damage in the garage/ship will be minimal. AC outside unit will be trashed, walls
wrecked, but comparatively cheap.
Bill
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Up here it's ice and snow that kick the citiots in the pants. I learned my lesson in the Ice Storm of '98. 15 days, in January, with no power and upwards of 75 head of various stock to water, a house to keep warm and family to shelter...all while working 12-16 hour days. Nothing is more fun than drawing your last barrel of water from a neighbors at 2:30AM and having to be back to work at 7AM, after you get up and do chores of course! I'm not where I should be in some areas but I'm good in the power generation/staying warm/being able to flush a toilet and eat areas. But I saw dozens of people, some long time residents of this area, that simply weren't even remotely up to snuff for 3-5 days w/o power, much less 2-3 weeks. We had city retirees that built "down on the lake". They didn't have a 4wd truck to get up and down the 1/2 mile hill on their private road and had made no arraignments to have it plowed even. They thought "the Town would do it if the snow got bad". Nope. But they knew enough to call HQ in Albany and whine so much that good old Trooper Bret got to hike into their place, get a grocery list ( I refused to find an open liquor store for them), list of meds at their drug store, etc., hike back out, drive to town, do their shopping and haul it all back into them. Even got a local propane co. to snowmobile a couple hundred pound tanks into them. And after all that they never said a word of thanks and told me they'd expect me back the next day! I shifted that mess off onto 'a junior Trooper I didn;t really like very much...and no, I didn't feel the least bit guilty!
But, getting back on topic, I hear we're in for a monster winter up here. If the moisture continues as it's been these past months we could be looking at storms dump 4-5 feet and having 10-12 feet on the ground easily, and we're not in the snow belt! I know there will be people that won't even think about it until they're out of wood/oil/propane and they can't drive out to the highway. I've got new neighbors from Jersey/Florida that think an Escalade is a farm truck. It's going to be an interesting time, I'm sure.
But, getting back on topic, I hear we're in for a monster winter up here. If the moisture continues as it's been these past months we could be looking at storms dump 4-5 feet and having 10-12 feet on the ground easily, and we're not in the snow belt! I know there will be people that won't even think about it until they're out of wood/oil/propane and they can't drive out to the highway. I've got new neighbors from Jersey/Florida that think an Escalade is a farm truck. It's going to be an interesting time, I'm sure.
Ian
Notorious member
Long lines at the gas stations already here, most have been out of fuel all day. Wife saw tankers at two fuel stations today, who knows how it's going to be. I don't have a clue what's really going on, but we get ALL our fuel from CC and if the refineries have shut down, then the pipeline is shut down to San Antonio, and nobody here or in SA is going to have any gas after this weekend for some time. Been anticipating the fuel shortage since before the hurricane hit, this isn't our first rodeo around here.
fiver
Well-Known Member
I'm thinking about driving down to Houston to buy some gas.
I see they are paying 80cents a gallon less than we pay for it here, kind of aggravating since there is 3 refinery's about 150 miles away.
unfortunately this storm stuff ain't over [and not just the one still creating havoc]
I bet we see 1 or even 2 more big hurricanes hit contiguous U.S. land this year.
the oceans are nice and warm and the storms have been rolling through in a continuous pattern all year.
we keep seeing 2-3 weeks of wet and cold then a week of 85-90 then it turns cold/wet again.
it's playing havoc on the grain harvest, the potato de-vining hasn't even started yet, but it's just about past time for the vine kill/strip to start.
if they get them sprayed down and it rains for a week the tato's can/will get a fungus and rot in the ground.
I see they are paying 80cents a gallon less than we pay for it here, kind of aggravating since there is 3 refinery's about 150 miles away.
unfortunately this storm stuff ain't over [and not just the one still creating havoc]
I bet we see 1 or even 2 more big hurricanes hit contiguous U.S. land this year.
the oceans are nice and warm and the storms have been rolling through in a continuous pattern all year.
we keep seeing 2-3 weeks of wet and cold then a week of 85-90 then it turns cold/wet again.
it's playing havoc on the grain harvest, the potato de-vining hasn't even started yet, but it's just about past time for the vine kill/strip to start.
if they get them sprayed down and it rains for a week the tato's can/will get a fungus and rot in the ground.
The "retirement home" needs a propane generator and we'll be set. I had a 2-flue chimney built centrally so that I could have a wood stove in the basement and a propane stove in the living room. Once the propane tank is installed (500gal or 1000gal), I'll convert to propane fired on demand hot water, and may install a propane stove. Its a well and septic property, so as long as we have power, we'll be fine. Snow doesn't hang around long, and most of the driveway is on a southern/eastern exposure. It doesn't take much to heat and cool with 6'' thick log exterior walls, 8' wide covered porch all the way around, and surrounded by trees. At this point its still a long weekend to week long getaway.
Good point Keith.
We can discuss prepping all we want but let's keep it off politics.
Thanks for your help
Brad
KHornet
Well-Known Member
Pistolero, Have had the pleasure of walking thru the Coliseum and the Forum, seeing
the acquedect , been driven a short distance on the Appian Way, walked in the catacombs
in Rome. Spent 7 days on the Nile, climbed on the great pyramid of Giza, marveled at the
Solar Boat, walked in the Roman amphitheater in Alexanderia and wondered at the marvels
of Luxor, and the Valley of the Kings, and Valley of the Queens.
My days of travel are over, but the memories of Rome and of Egypt will always be etched
in our memories. As to people being oblivious to nature and what it offers I could not agree
more with you.
Paul
the acquedect , been driven a short distance on the Appian Way, walked in the catacombs
in Rome. Spent 7 days on the Nile, climbed on the great pyramid of Giza, marveled at the
Solar Boat, walked in the Roman amphitheater in Alexanderia and wondered at the marvels
of Luxor, and the Valley of the Kings, and Valley of the Queens.
My days of travel are over, but the memories of Rome and of Egypt will always be etched
in our memories. As to people being oblivious to nature and what it offers I could not agree
more with you.
Paul